CosminG1

Hey guys,
First time poster here.
Can someone help me with an appraisal on this colnago bike, the seller wants 200 Euro for the bike and im not sure its worth it.
I plan on riding this bike, no interest in flipping it.

Edit: I added more pics, thanks for the reply.
Edit2: More pics from the front.

jet sanchEz

There are a lot of fake Colnagos out there, you need to get some better photos to determine whether it is a real Colnago or not.

My guess would be that it is not a Colnago and that the seller knows it.

Colnago Mixte

+2 on the photo request. Looks suspiciously low end for a Colnago, not that I'm an expert.

CosminG1

Should I ask for better pics or are these enough?

CosminG1

Can you confirm its fake?

Bianchigirll 

YES! Better photos would go a long way to determine if it is real. Also what country if the bike in?

jet sanchEz

I doubt that it is a Colnago, the lugs and finishings are very inelegant.

Another tip-off is that the paint looks to be very well-done but the components are in bad shape, meaning that someone found an old bike for cheap/free and decided to paint it up as a Colnago and put the same old components back onto the frame.

It might make a nice daily rider but, as noted above, the components are not very good so you may have reliability issues.

CosminG1

The guy selling it is from Romania.
I added two more pics.

CosminG1

Thanks for taking up the time to explain.

zukahn1

I would say it doesn't really matter that much if it's fake or not. It is basically a low end bike with bottom end Italian components and. I also see a possible issue with the frame it looks like someone did an amateur drill job to attach the bottle cage. I would say pass for 200 in the current European market you should be able to find decent mid level bike that doesn't have issues.

StarBiker

Price = Fake

CliffordK

It has nothing to do with the price. I'd love to find a Colnago for $200.... somewhere there has to be one out there.

However, it has none of the typical Colnago features.

As far as I know, all Colnago Super frames will have at least one clover cutout on the lugs. Never other shapes. Early Colnago Supers had concave seat stay caps, and did NOT have water bottle bosses.

I believe that all the Colnago Supers, Sports, and Juniors also had bottom bracket holes of some sort. Plus, even if it was a Colnago Sport, it has the wrong decal set.

That bike has a few nice features. Depending on the market, I could imagine it still be being worth $150 to $200. The FAKE DECALS are in the eyes of the beholder. In my book, they lower the overall value of the bike.

However, if it is being sold in a depressed European market, then there has to be something better.

StarBiker

It has everything to do with price. Anybody would know that. Good luck finding a $200 Colnago. Everything else is obvious.
Ten years of digging I have never found a quality vintage Italian bike inexpensively. EVER. Sure you could be like the guy in Indiana that found a Colnago Cruiser in the trash. Good luck on that.
I have sold hundreds of bikes.

CliffordK

Yeah, you're right.
I think I paid closer to $250 for my Nuovo Record equipped Genuine Colnago. Of course, that was a few years ago.

Deals pop up from time to time, and one just has to be ready to snap them up when they do. Not Italian, but I narrowly missed a PX-10 a while ago for $75, and someone recently donated a Schwinn Paramount to our local bike co-op (which they stripped and sold off one piece at a time).

dim

yea .... bargains are still to be found .... I've waited 3 years to get my Koga Miyata Full Pro for Ł100

however, the OP asked for advice about a bike on this forum, where there are many experts, and he (possibly) got get pissed off when the majority say that it's a fake or that it's built of melted gas pipe and it's ****

StarBiker

Yeah, a few years ago?

I paid $20 for a PX 10E 7 years ago.



Which model Schwinn Paramount? All Paramounts are not big dollars.

The point is somebody in frigin Romania is not going to go through the effort to post that bike for 200 euros if its' real.

If you are in small town ******* and drive by a yard sale you might get lucky, but it's getting super tough to find quality bikes cheap. And at one time it was not. But not the kind of steel you are talking about.

CliffordK

Beautiful Peugeot.

Yeah, a few years ago, when I could still pay for it in Lira 300,000 Lira

Sorry, I'm not sure what year of a Paramount, but I bought a pair of early low flange (nuovo) record wheels off of it, so it was probably a multi-speed from the mid 70's or early 80's.

I suppose it depends on the source of the bike. If it is a "friends and family deal", then anything goes. If it is on a website like Craiglist, then the good deals are snatched up before a person can ask a seller a dozen questions. E-Bay? Perhaps a few sneak by unnoticed, especially when listed for "local pickup".

OldsCOOL

As with the others suspecting a fake Colnago I will add “seriously” to the suspect. First, there is no clover cutout on the BB shell. There are other distinctives missing but that one factor is far and away enougb for me to call fake. I own a ‘77 Colnago Super.

CosminG1

Thanks for your input.

StarBiker

I do not care that much for Peugeot but was happy to sell if for $275 two weeks later.

I hope the OP looks somewhere else.