bicikla

Hello folks,

I am new to this forum and was just curious if anyone could give me an estimate to what my bike is worth. It’s a vintage 12 speed peogeot road bike. All parts other than the tires are original. The bike is in great condition and hasn’t been used much. The frame is 60cm. It has a San Marco Laser seat, front and rear Sachs derailleurs, Rigida wheels, etc. Please let me know your thoughts. I’d like to upload photos but don’t see an option anywhere. Thanks!

Aubergine 

Are there decals on the bike? What do they say?

You can upload pics from your computer. Click on the Advanced button and then scroll down to “attach files”.

wrk101

Google uploading pictures bikeforums.net

Without pictures, no idea. Often all original on a vintage bike = hasn't seen maintenance in 30 years. Whether a bike gets ridden or not, the years and decades take a toll on grease, bearings, pretty much every moving part.

Also will need to know your location as a bike worth $50 in one location may be worth $200 in another. Peugeot made a full line of bikes including some really basic stuff.

bicikla

I did google uploading pictures and saw that the "advanced" option was one way tobupload them but didn't see that option anywhere. I think it is because I was trying to do it from my phone. I will upload pictures later in the day. For now, I can answer your questions. I am located in west Chicagoland. The bike was always stored inside, and it has been in my ownership for 14 years. While it has not been ridden a lot, it has been properly maintained. Like I said, I will upload pictures later. Thank you for the quick response.

bicikla

Here are some pictures. Let me know your thoughts.

Orlando

Looks like a very nice 80s vintage velo. My WAG on the price when new is about $250. If you take it completely apart and rebuild everything with nice, fresh grease and cables you'd have a very nice velo to ride - if you can handle non-indexed shifting. Because it looks like it's all original, and if it really is, it might be worth maybe a $1,000 or more to an avid collector. Outside of that it would be a hard sell I think. Anyone coming in to cycling in the last 20 years or so have no clue how to use 'friction' gear levers. Indexed shifting is all they've ever used and they won't want this bike just for that reason. But it is a lovely looking machine and it would be wonderful to give it a new life.

Chombi1 

It can never sell for anywhere near $1K, as suggested previously. Even the top of the line racers from Peugeot are struggling to even get close to such numbers these days.
It's a lower mid range bike from Peugeot. I'm saying that it just breaks into the mid range line because, despite the plain, straight gauge high tensile carbon steel tubing they put in nice, forged Simplex dropouts that was usually used only on higher model bikes. The components mounted on the bike is also of decent quality, not bargain basement. The Peugeot HLE (Haute Limite Elastique) tubing might be only Peugeots "house" tubing, but like most Peugeots, this bike should ride really nicely and perform beyond most expectations for the value of the bike.
It should have a market value of around $250 max if close to mint, original condition, with no rust, dents, paint loss or major chips and scratches and road ready.
Market value for such bikes drop drastically if there are any major flaws or wear on it.
From what I can see in the pics, as-is, the bike is worth maybe about $180, max. Clean it up and service it to get it back on the road and you might just eek out close to 200 bucks, max, in a hot market area.
Could have done better a few years ago, but the market for C&V bikes is quite depressed and it's a buyers market these days.....

bicikla

Thank you for your responses. I don't mind the non-indexed shifting, and it really doesn't need a refresh right now. The condition is not exactly mint, but it is really good without any major defects. I like the classic look and feel and greatly enjoy this bike. Nevertheless, I've hardly had time to ride it the last few years. At this point I'm torn between selling and keeping it; however, selling the bike for $250 is not worth it to me (if that is the most I can get for it). Chombi1, where on the bike can I find a serial or model number that might give me some more insight? Also, what is the difference between your Peugeots and mine?

Aubergine 

Your model is the Tourmalet. That part was easy! The 1986 US catalog shows that the model number was PH 10LE. https://www.peugeotshow.com/1986us/1986us_07.jpg

Chombi’s bikes differ because of the tubing used in the frame, as well as the components. Peugeot made millions of bicycles using its own tubing alloys, and they made great bikes that are nice to ride. (I have three old cheap Peugeots myself.) But in part because Peugeot did make millions of these bikes, they are not rare. The better Peugeots such as Chombi’s used Reynolds 531 or Vitus tubing, and higher quality parts. Even these Peugeots, however, are fairly common and in my experience do not command high prices.

Chombi1 

Uhmmm...... correction, I have no 531 tubed Peugeot bikes. My 1984 Peugeot PY10FC Pro team replica is Carbon Fiber with Aluminum rear triangle, lugs and fork..... The stock rear derailleur alone can cost up to 200 bucks, NOS, over 100 bucks, used.

They did not make that many of these (I think only a hundred, at most, were imported into the US) and there's not too many survivors out there.
I think you might be thinking of the PY10 which were built with 531 tubing. Those bikes aren't cheap or common either. In fact those were made in Peugeot's special shop where they custom made a very limited number of frames for their pro team riders and special order customers and those bikes in good condition can easily sell well over $1,000.00. Much more (Closer to $2K) if in mint condition and complete with period correct components.
So there are expensive Peugeots out there. Not many but they do exist.

wrk101

$1K = crack pipe land. Chicago is a decent market, not great. I've bought some bikes there while visiting family.

Its a Tourmalet model, lower end, but not the bottom. Winter price, $125. Buyer will need to service bike, replace consumables, and so on.

I've never been able to upload pictures from my phone either.


Hasn't been used much + over 30 years old IME = needs service. Bottom bracket and wheel hubs will need fresh grease and bearings, headset bearings will need to be cleaned and new grease, and cables will need to be replaced. Now if those items have been serviced in the last five years or less, you could be OK. Grease gets old and dries out whether bike is ridden or not. I've owned 600+ older bikes and every one of them needed this work to be road worthy.

Some will continue to ride old bikes without such service at their peril. Its one of those pay me now/pay me later problems. Old bearings and grease plus use will eventually damage surfaces where the bearings reside: cones, cups, spindles; which are much more expensive to replace than bearings and grease.

Bianchigirll 

Great looking Peugeot If your on a mobile device you need to go to bottom of the page and selec “view full site”.

bicikla

My first assumption was that the model was the Tourmalet, but I didn't seem to find much online. Due to this, I was not sure if that was the model name. Thank you for clarifying and the catalog! As far as the differences, I did mean the specific differences in components. I am fully aware that Chombi's is going to have high quality parts.

I actually received the bike as a gift about 14 years ago. It was in great condition, but I completely took it apart and gave it refresh as far as greasing it up. Since then it has been maintained but never completely disassembled. However,the cables and bearings were not changed.

I tried the full site option, but nothing happened. At this point, it doesn't matter. I got the photos up. Thank you though.

Obeast

omg! this ride is so beautiful...

scottlox

i have recently seen a 75 PY10 sell for 2k but it was mint

StarBiker

A lot of the prices banged around on here are Barrett Jackson Syndrome prices. They are for rarer mint never, or almost never ridden bikes. People really get goofy with valuations a lot on this site. They do it on a lot of sites.

DMC707 

Perhaps if the tubes were filled with said substances