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Miyata 912

Old 01-17-18, 02:31 PM
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Miyata 912

Curious what people know about the 1985 Miyata 912 and if $500 is worth my money? I have already spoken with him and he won't go lower than $450 and is being rather unfriendly about my attempts to haggle.

The craiglist ad reads:
1985 Miyata 912.
59cm seat tube - center crank to top tube.
I'm 5'9 and am very comfortable on this bicycle. It will fit someone up to around 6'3".

If you know Miyata, you know that even their average bicycles were better than most companies' best bicycles.
Spectacular geometry and design make this bike very fast while still providing excellent comfort on extended rides.
Fully LUGGED.
Miyata's famous Triple Butted Chromoly Tubing.
Super light steel bike. 24lbs. Nothing is as comfortable as high-quality steel.

They are not easy to find in this great condition.
Only selling due to inability to ride any longer.
My loss is your gain.

All original components except for seat.
Original pedals.
Shifts beautifully.
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Old 01-17-18, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jmcgovern12 View Post
...if $500 is worth my money?
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Old 01-17-18, 03:24 PM
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Even in mint condition, this is over priced. In Seattle, in the high season, if mint, I'd say it go for 350. I have one of these tho, early 80's, with Arabesque 600, great bike.
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No its not worth it. In addition, size is pretty big for someone 5-9.

Haggling over the phone or via email is a waste of seller's time. If you were to attempt it with me, I'd tell you to come in person instead.

Such haggling really only commits the seller. You may never show up, and even if you do, if you don't like it, or it doesn't fit, or whatever, you won't buy it. I'm still waiting for buyers that were "just 15 minutes away". That was a couple of years ago. I think they aren't coming......


Sellers have the right to ask any price they want, even a silly high price like this one. They don't have to ask a reasonable amount, or negotiate for that matter. Myself, I would more on. Unrealistic sellers are a waste of time.


Some of the ad copy is ridiculous. If the seller really believes it, just another sign he is not flexible. "If you know Miyata, you know that even their average bicycles were better than most companies' best bicycles " Total BS. I love Japanese bikes, and Miyatas too. But a lot of brands made great bikes and an average Miyata is not better than those great bikes. Miyata made a full line, from the very, very basic to excellent. So did most of the bike shop brands from that era. "Spectacular geometry" give me a freakin' break.

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It would have to be wearing all new tires, tubes, rim tape, handlebar wrap, seat, chain, cables, brake pads, hoods, grease & ball bearings and, shine like a brand new penny to be worth $500.
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It would have to be wearing all new tires, tubes, rim tape, handlebar wrap, seat, chain, cables, brake pads, hoods, grease & ball bearings and, shine like a brand new penny to be worth $500.
We agree for once!

Looks like it needs a major overhaul and lots of new components, as Ramzilla recommends.
https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/b...456451362.html

The Hoboken NJ Miyata 512 is much better value at half the cost.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/b...429614515.html

Go by Path, go back to the rock with the bike via ferry.

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Old 01-17-18, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
No its not worth it. In addition, size is pretty big for someone 5-9.

Haggling over the phone or via email is a waste of seller's time. If you were to attempt it with me, I'd tell you to come in person instead.

Such haggling really only commits the seller. You may never show up, and even if you do, if you don't like it, or it doesn't fit, or whatever, you won't buy it. I'm still waiting for buyers that were "just 15 minutes away". That was a couple of years ago. I think they aren't coming......


Sellers have the right to ask any price they want, even a silly high price like this one. They don't have to ask a reasonable amount, or negotiate for that matter. Myself, I would more on. Unrealistic sellers are a waste of time.


Some of the ad copy is ridiculous. If the seller really believes it, just another sign he is not flexible. "If you know Miyata, you know that even their average bicycles were better than most companies' best bicycles " Total BS. I love Japanese bikes, and Miyatas too. But a lot of brands made great bikes and an average Miyata is not better than those great bikes. Miyata made a full line, from the very, very basic to excellent. So did most of the bike shop brands from that era. "Spectacular geometry" give me a freakin' break.
+ 1 on all this. It's not worth dealing with this seller.
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Nice bike but not worth $500 unless it's mint.

I'm in Portland, OR and sold a refurbished (new grease, bearings, cables, bar tape, tires, etc.) 55 cm Miyata 912 this past summer for $225. It had full Suntour Cyclone that was very nice but also had plenty of paint chips and a faded top tube. It was a nice rider and would've kept it if it was my size. I think if it had good paint I MIGHT have been able to squeeze $300 out of it. No way I could have got close to $500.
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Bill is right on, and I agree that you should go look at the 512. Unless the OP has unusually long legs, the bike was too big for him. Unless he measured to the top of the seat tube and still, it would be close.
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Old 01-18-18, 09:09 PM
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And the 912 guy couldn’t bother to take more than one average photo? Or measure accurately/know that it’s atypical for someone 5’9” to ride a 59cm frame? Unsurprising he’s a pain to deal with and asking too much.

Agreed that the gray/yellow one looks like a good deal at half the price and likely a nicer purchasing experience.
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Thank you all so much for the feedback! I myself am 6'1" so a 59cm frame would be alright. It's actually incredible to me that you are all on the same page on this one. This dude is way out of his mind and won't budge. No wonder it's been listed for months and not sold. I'm checking out a 712 next week from a different seller and if that goes well I might buy it. But will also have to bring him down for his $450 list price haha.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
No its not worth it. In addition, size is pretty big for someone 5-9.
Some of the ad copy is ridiculous. If the seller really believes it, just another sign he is not flexible. "If you know Miyata, you know that even their average bicycles were better than most companies' best bicycles " Total BS. I love Japanese bikes, and Miyatas too. But a lot of brands made great bikes and an average Miyata is not better than those great bikes. Miyata made a full line, from the very, very basic to excellent. So did most of the bike shop brands from that era. "Spectacular geometry" give me a freakin' break.
You're so right. God damn why did I waste so much time. Thanks for knocking some sense into me.
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