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Old 01-18-18, 02:58 PM
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Help ID This Keno

Japanese department store bike. Just curious on the year and manufacturer of the frame. It also has this weird etching on the drive side of the seat tube.
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The second marking looks like something put in by a licensing agency.

Wonder if the S P could stand for San Pablo. There is even a "San P___" transfer on the seat tube.

The frame's bulge-formed head is from Nikko Sankyo.

The fixed bottom bracket cup is of Raleigh/T.D. Cross pattern. Makes me wonder if shell is 68 or 71 and if threads are 26 or 24...

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Just those two pics? Unless TMar has a data base on this brand I doubt we will get far.

were there components on it? What are they? What kind of dropouts does it have?
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What kind of dropouts does it have?
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Dropouts are stamped sheet without gear hanger and they are brazed, no spotwelds.

But fork ends are crimped.

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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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The second marking looks like something put in by a licensing agency.

Wonder if the S P could stand for San Pablo. There is even a "San P___" transfer on the seat tube.

The frame's bulge-formed head is from Nikko Sankyo.

The fixed bottom bracket cup is of Raleigh/T.D. Cross pattern. Makes me wonder if shell is 68 or 71 and if threads are 26 or 24...

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Ahhhhh sir Juvela,bingo! It had a San Pablo sticker that I removed so that explains that. City of San Pablo registration.
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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Dropouts are stamped sheet without gear hanger and they are brazed, no spotwelds.

But fork ends are crimped.

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Yeah those fork end threw me off.
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Don Roberto,

T-Mar has posted on these bicycles in the past. He knows who the maker is, etc. You might be able to pull up the messages by using the advanced search function.

Alas, I do not recall any of the details.

Keno anecdote -

Once on a visit to Dennis Stone in Alameda his phone rang and it was a customer wanting to ask about a Keno. He explained it was a department store bike and he did not work with them.

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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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Don Roberto,

T-Mar has posted on these bicycles in the past. He knows who the maker is, etc. You might be able to pull up the messages by using the advanced search function.

Alas, I do not recall any of the details.

Keno anecdote -

Once on a visit to Dennis Stone in Alameda his phone rang and it was a customer wanting to ask about a Keno. He explained it was a department store bike and he did not work with them.

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Got it,sir. Found a couple of threads on Kenos.
That's a funny story.
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As regards the spoon, er I mean fork -

There appear to be markings on steerer; perhaps only a JIS symbol.

One thing I have observed on many modest models from asia is that cycle manufacturers often do not fabricate their own forks. They look to purchase "off the shelf" from producers such as Tange, Akisu & Lung. The subject machine is clearly too early for Lung.

Did you discover any markings on the chainset? I would expect it to be Tagaki Three Arrows whether marked or no. Most likely 165mm/6.5inch in length. The Three Arrows symbol may display on the inner face of the crank arms.

The Titlist shift levers are the single best fitting.

What are your plans for the machine?

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Found one of the forum's earlier threads on a Keno cycle here:

60's/70's Keno road bicycle help please...

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Thanks for more info,Juv.
I haven't reached that far with the parts. Have only worked in the frame and fork so far. Too cold. lol
Plans are still up in the air whether to keep or flip. I'm out of space and there are two more incoming that may be keepers. Nevertheless I'm bringing it back to life, that's it.
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After finishing the bike yesterday and posting it on CL(after deciding to flip it), it went to it's new owner today. That was quick. lol
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