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Nishiki Prestige w/Unusual Brake Calipers

Old 01-27-18, 03:43 PM
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Nishiki Prestige w/Unusual Brake Calipers

I've never seen Dia Compe 500 G Side Pulls With a bronze or gold anodized finish. Are these rare? Any idea on value? They came on a Nishiki Prestige that looks to be a mid-80's model. Frame is to small for me, & trying to decide on selling as is, or parting out. Thanks!
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They are probably "rare", but not necessarily valuable as that was a very modest caliper. There was a time when bicycle companies ordered customized versions of various parts in color, with pantographing or just a small logo.

Actually, many mid-priced bikes do that today.




Someone will likely be looking into the value of those Colnago calipers someday, but most people today are figuring out whether they should ditch them in favor of Shimano's.
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From what I have seen, a set of the 500 G Black anodized brake calipers bring approximately $50 on the auction site, & the bronze version are not as common.

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From what I have see, the 500 G Black anodized brakes bring approximately $50 on the auction site, & the bronze version are not as common. I assume these would bring a similar dollar amount.
If people are willing to pay $50 for that brake just because it is black, I'd ask $100 and see if you get any takers.
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The subject bicycle is a 1985 model. The anodized colour was called SMB (smokey brown). Araya, Dia-Compe, SunTour and Sugino co-ordinated their efforts and offered matching parts in this finish in an attempt to counteract Shimano's success with groups. The Prestige should have matching rims, chainrings and derailleurs. (parallelogram arms).

As for pricing, they can fetch a premium over the standard finish but it's very dependent on the condition. Once the finish has been damaged, it can't be polished out like the standard finish and there can be more variation in hue than black. Consequently, parts in poor condition actually bring less than the standard finish. Average condition parts warrant about a 10-20% premium. Excellent condition typically fetches about a 50% premium.
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Thanks for the update. I believe it is an 85 Prestige, w/ matching rims & chainrings. But the derailleurs & shifters are Shimano 600, which may have been swapped out at some point.

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It's definitely 1985, as that was the only year for that decal scheme. The original derailleurs were SunTour LePree. I can't see the shift levers or rear derailleur in your pictures but they were probably replaced to get indexed shifting, which was a pretty common upgrade in the late 1980s.
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When I first saw the photos I assumed an anodised finish. As I looked closer it appears more of a sprayed on coating. Note the orange peel on the brake pad holders for example.

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Was the SMB color scheme offered on other makes & models, or only on the 85 Nishiki Prestige?

I wish the bike fit me. Seems fairly lightweight, & I love the way the components contrast w/ the frame color.

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I find some colored calipers bring good $$ with the BMX crowd. I think they would like the gold ones! I've been selling off a box of red and blue ones I picked up. Seems like anything that qualifies for BMX use will bring double what anything else will bring, if not even more.

To maximize return, you would part it out. That would be a bit of a shame, as they do look good on that frame. Is the crankset gold anodized as well? Same BMX crowd wants some vintage cranks: in colors, as well as first generation DA and 600 arabesque.
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Crank arms are not gold anodized, just the chainrings.
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Different brakes, similar finish...1984 Centurion Turbo
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Beautiful Centurion, Al. And I agree, different brake w/ a similar anodized finish. I think the 500 G's I have would look great on a black bike, particularly w/ gold GC levers. Thanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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When I first saw the photos I assumed an anodised finish. As I looked closer it appears more of a sprayed on coating. Note the orange peel on the brake pad holders for example.

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I appreciate your point but given matching chainrings and rims, paint wouldn't make sense. Hard anodizing wears off quickly enough but paint would fare worse under a chain or brake pads. and painted rim sidewalls would degrade the performance. A quick check of the Dia-Compe colour chart mentions it being anodized, unless it's their "orange" paint. The colour chart also indicates it may be HD (hard anodized), as opposed to SMB. I think SMB is a better description but then Shimano had what I'd call a bronze finish on their BioPace chainrings which they called GMG (gun metal grey). Dia-Compe colour chart attached.

Having said that, it's possible that they later reverted to paint for the brakeset, if they couldn't consistently colour match the anodizing. When I was working as a Quality Engineer for a telecommunications firm in the 1980s, we manufactured bronze anodized bezels for apartment entry systems and consistent colour was always an issue.

I recall seeing this finish on a few mid-1980s models. The ones that immediately come to mind are the Centurion Elite RS, Miele Condor and Norco Monterey.
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I'm almost positive it's not paint. I believe it is, in fact, anodized like several have mentioned. With the right frame, these really stand out.

Also, does the G on these & other Dia Compe calipers indicate Gran Compe?
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I'm almost positive it's not paint. I believe it is, in fact, anodized like several have mentioned. With the right frame, these really stand out.

Also, does the G on these & other Dia Compe calipers indicate Gran Compe?



Can you post some other pics of your bike? I think they look pretty good against that silver. Are the chainrings a similar color?
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
Can you post some other pics of your bike? I think they look pretty good against that silver. Are the chainrings a similar color?

Chainrings are similar, Bianchigirll, & I can post some additional pics later this week. I agree with you, the bronze & silver look really good together.
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No, "G" does not stand for Gran Compe. It designates a G-series model, which was below Gran Compe. Your brakes appear to be the G500N model.
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