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Old 02-07-18, 12:05 PM
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What is this worth?

I just acquired this Alex Singer. Google is not much help in obtaining information about it. I understand that Singers are highly desirable but this model appears not to be in the league of the higher valued models I've seen in my search. If somebody can please provide information as to the model, desirability, and value of this model.

The bike appears to be in good shape although it probably will not be in my possession for at least 30 days. It is currently being stored in one of the cities that I visit in my business travels. Pictures are as provided by previous owner.
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Old 02-07-18, 07:11 PM
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Anybody?
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Old 02-07-18, 09:23 PM
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Well, I know nothing about these, but its bloody gorgeous.
Id love to hear more about them and learn what the differences are between this one and what youve come across as his higher-end work.
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I know Singers are ultra grail bikes, but what I did not know was they made aero style bikes (in the 80's??) With the concealed cables and fully sloping fork crowns. Not saying that it isn't a Singer, cause the color and graphics and quality sure looks like it is one. Just never saw any like this one....... A super fantastic find if everything checks out! Congratulations!
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Originally Posted by Charliekeet View Post
Well, I know nothing about these, but it’s bloody gorgeous.
I’d love to hear more about them and learn what the differences are between this one and what you’ve come across as his higher-end work.
Well, I'm not sure where this stands with the Singers I've seen in the internet. I may be mistaken in saying that it's not in the league of other Singers. It's just that most of them are much older. That's why I'd like to learn about this more recent (1980's) model.

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Old 02-07-18, 10:10 PM
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One of my colleagues took additional pictures. The Flickr link is here. The pictures are not the best, though.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/145924...57690242325912
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
I know Singers are ultra trail bikes, but what I did not know was they made aero style bikes (in the 80's??) With the concealed cables and fully sloping fork crowns. Not saying that it isn't a Singer, cause the color and graphics and quality sure looks like it is one. Just never saw any like this one....... A super fantastic find if everything checks out! Congratulations!
And, as my friend @crank_addict pointed out, straight fork?
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I will agree with the others that that is a cool and unique bike. I can’t really help you on value; this bike probably falls into that category where it has an average value to the standard Joe looking for a nice vintage bike and a lot of value to the collector looking for that one special bike.

Rear derailleur looks late 80’s Athena and rest of group is probably the same except the brake levers are another make.
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Its a great looking bike but isn't that cable entry point a bit untidy for a vaunted builder like Singer?

Those Monoplaner brakes are my favorite! The best looking brake ever made.
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Old 02-08-18, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
I will agree with the others that that is a cool and unique bike. I can’t really help you on value; this bike probably falls into that category where it has an average value to the standard Joe looking for a nice vintage bike and a lot of value to the collector looking for that one special bike.

Rear derailleur looks late 80’s Athena and rest of group is probably the same except the brake levers are another make.
I would probably upgrade the components when I get the bike. Any opinions on the year made? I would like it to be TPC. If mid 80's, I'll hang my favorite group on it, the C Record. Maybe the water bottle/cage can also be an indicator.

[IMG]IMG_20180207_154953 by A C, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]IMG_20180207_154845 by A C, on Flickr[/IMG]

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It’s an odd frame for a Singer, but if I was going to fake a frame I’d go with a better known maker.
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Old 02-09-18, 10:57 AM
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I dunno. Nothing about this reminds me of the level of craftsmanship that other Singers I have seen have. I'd go into it with suspicion.

Edit: or maybe it is a real Singer that was modified and repainted.
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The waterbottle seems to be a homemade add to tye bike, enhanced with just painting the stopper the same color as the bike.(one would expect the waterbottle to be at least branded with a Singer logo if it was original to the bike and not that "Rainforest" silk screen on it.....which might be a sign that this whole bike could just been made up to look like a Singer??
The more we look at this thing, the less it looks to be a real Singer.....
The hooded and ringed front brake cable exit on the top tube zctually reminds me of an "artisenal" Japanese bike frameset that a forum member posted up a few months ago, asking for more information on it... I think it had the same detail.
We really need a Singer enthusiast/owner/e9xpert to chime in!
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Did you try to contact them/send pictures of seat cluster and fork and the heart shaped cutouts on the lugs?
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Same thing with the facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/CyclesAlexSinger/
I would check for crash damage on the top and down tube. I am guessing that is a replacement fork as in your second picture there is a visible gab between the top race and the head tube and the bike looks like it has been repainted
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I could be wrong, but don’t think it’s a Singer.
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Did Singer make any frames with straight-blade forks?

The level of workmanship doesn't say Singer to me; but then again, maybe Singer made a low-end model or two?

Weird how the head tube decal is faded-looking, but the paint looks like it was sprayed last week. I'm just guessing, but I hold the opinion it's not the genuine article.

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I would agree with some of the others that it is a great looking bike but might not be a singer. The frame geometry, strait blade competition fork and some of the details look more mid to late 80's Japanese artisan which would be consistent with the components. As for value it's still likely a great bike with some really nice components if you got it under $1000 you did fine value wise.
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