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1985 Ron Stout

Old 03-20-18, 07:32 PM
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1985 Ron Stout

Howdy. I'm just about finished a winter's worth of cleaning and polishing raw aluminum on this nearly intact Stout. I have the original Avocet leather saddle on it now instead of the WTB shown in the big picture. All that's left is for me to track down those hideous and even more hideously overpriced gum rubber brake hoods that it came with. Or not. I really don't want to spend $100 for a pair that's going to fall apart a few months down the road so might not even bother with them.
Here's what I know. The 52mm frame was built for a Salt Lake woman who was an Olympic hopeful and rode competitively as an amatuer with several local clubs. I know she didn't make the Olympics, graduated from school and did ride in europe for a time before an accident left her unable to compete any longer. The bike was left behind as a gift to a landlord who wound up sticking it in a basement and then using it as partial payment for work I did for him twenty or so years later.
It's Super Record Group is complete. The frame is the lighter Columbus tubing and these are the original off the shelf pre-built Mavic rims that were just starting to show up on the market around the time this bike was made. It's sporting the original gray paint and the sort of battle scars that come with a season or two of aggressive riding. I've had the frame checked out and was told that it's still in good condition although if anyone wants to ride it hard these rims need to be retired.
What's it worth?
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Old 10-21-18, 10:22 PM
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Sadly, your Ron Stout is not worth that much. I paid $300 for a Stout frame and fork via eBay four years ago and it's in much better shape and has the wishbone seatstay (which some may consider "better," although I prefer Ron's fastback seat lug as yours has.) As for your Campy SR group, generally speaking, only people in their 50s and older even appreciate those components. I rarely see them on the road, except at classic bike events. More and more, IF I even see classic steel frames in use anymore, they often have modern parts on them. Anyway, I'd put your value at $400 to $500, max. (I've been tracking Stouts on eBay for many years now; I was sponsored by Ron in 1985 and 1988 and I always keep an eye out for them on eBay, Instagram, Craigslist, etc. They usually don't even sell.)

I hope you just ride it and enjoy it! (And feel free to change out parts, including putting on some "aero" brake levers, which everybody was switching too on otherwise all Campy SR bikes in 1985 and later.)

I'm curious what those tyres are you that you mounted, and their width? Also, the serial number on the bottom bracket? It will tell you the year it was built.

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Old 10-22-18, 06:46 AM
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Selling, I'd start at around 700$ and be prepared to go down.

Unlike Rough Rider above, I'm not a follower of Stouts, but I regularly buy American customs. $300 for the frame is on the high end in today's market, though the smaller size helps (four years ago it was a good price; they've fallen since). Last two custom frames I bought were 220$ apiece; both had substantial extras (matching silica frame pump and Dura Ace 7400 headset in one case; intact and excellent French thread Campy headset and bottom bracket in the other).

The parts have some value, and sadly, this is probably worth a bit more parted out.

Yes, ride and enjoy, assuming it fits you.
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Old 10-22-18, 07:31 AM
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Group is NOT complete, I see a Specialized skewer on there. Source out SR skewers sometime, they go high. Not sure about the hubs, I'm not a Campy expert. Gray color is a negative, most buyers prefer something with a color that pops. Of course, its original so I would keep it that way.

I defer to the price expertise above. Local sale in most markets would be quite a bit less. Sadly, the value of the parts will exceed the value of the complete bike.

Selling on eBay maximizes $$ but is a major PITA. Then you have the fees, need to pack and ship at a low cost, and buyers win all disputes, whether you "accept" returns or not. All a buyer has to say is "item is not as described" and eBay WILL approve a return AND charge you for return shipping. Neat, huh?
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Old 10-22-18, 09:02 AM
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Hubs are indeed Specialized sealed bearing units. Nice in their own right, BTW.
You'd be pretty hard pressed to get $700, even on Ebay. Buyers market right now is going to keep prices depressed.
Part out if you're looking for maximum money (as cautioned above), if it fits, ride it and forget about it.
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Love the understated, classy looks of the Stouts!
Now that I have a Davidson and just totally in love with its aesthetics subtle details and fantastic build quality, I'm just craving for more high quality American custom frames like these.

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Old 10-22-18, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
Love the understated, ckassy looks of the Stouts!
Now that I have a Davidson and just totally in love with its aesthetics subtle details and fantastic build quality, I'm just craving for more high quality American custom frames like these.
Agree about the understand class. It's just so nicely subtle in a world where modern cycles are just screaming billboards.
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Old 10-24-18, 02:43 PM
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Agree about the understand class. It's just so nicely subtle in a world where modern cycles are just screaming billboards.
Something I really dislike. Loud.
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Old 10-24-18, 11:18 PM
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If this were my size I'd be happy to pay $600. I am one who prefers the understated elegance of this particular color. And I - along with a lot of others here - still ride my Campy Super Record into the ground. The wheels aren't the cat's meow for the time, but they aren't bad. They do, however, affect final value.

But then again, prices are depressed right now, so who knows what the market will bear for a complete bike? I defer to the guys tracking the frame builder as to the ultimate value of the frame/fork. But the components look good and it is a well-regarded American marque.

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Rusty spoke eyelets, sloppy wrap job, and junk tires are going to push the value down quite a bit as well
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Wow, what a tough crowd here....I might find a few different words to describe the STOUT, I too like the understated look of the bike, you can clean the eyelets better and rewrap the bars and replace the tires and you will have a bike that many will appreciate. Personally, I am not concerned with matchy-matchy and would not be troubled by the wheelset.
We all have our preferences....Ride it and enjoy it.
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Stout's work is immaculate. Rides beautifully as well.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
If this were my size I'd be happy to pay $600. I am one who prefers the understated elegance of this particular color. And I - along with a lot of others here - still ride my Campy Super Record into the ground. The wheels aren't the cat's meow for the time, but they aren't bad. They do, however, affect final value.

But then again, prices are depressed right now, so who knows what the market will bear for a complete bike? I defer to the guys tracking the frame builder as to the ultimate value of the frame/fork. But the components look good and it is a well-regarded American marque.

DD
I'm with DD and the other fans on this, though with the same caveats. This was not some mass produced bike with SR hung on it. This was a hand built racing machine.
(Though I'm not loving the color)

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Fairly industrial look with that battleship gray paint. Ron had some unusual color choices hanging in his shop in Salt Lake.
Most of which I didn't like as the Imron looked too thick to me. But these subtle unusual colors I like.
I'd hang in that shop a bit, mid ride stop, and admire the bikes and Campy parts in the display cases.
But I could never afford one of his frames back then.
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