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1998? Tandem w/Campy and White Industires

Old 04-02-18, 12:01 PM
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1998? Tandem w/Campy and White Industires

Trying to determine value for some friends, price originally was 5k+? built as they requested. They are no longer into cycling so I will be trying to help them sell at some point but have no stake in it. Problem is I know nothing other than Co-Motion is highly regarded and the parts are nice. Don't even know size as I took shots while it was hanging on their ceiling but will ask.


-Derailleurs are Campy Racing 9 speed, Campy chain
-Chris King headset
-Shifter and brakes are Campy Record Titanium, I believe.
-Hubs, very large flange White Industries (I thought they were Odom). 9 slots and 36 hole on Mavic wheels. I looked but can't find any exactly like.
-Cranks, White Industries NOTE:, they have some chipped teeth I noticed in the pics, haven't discussed how with them yet, but rest of bike is almost flawless.
-Pedals- Speedplay. I don't think they are TI but not sure.
-Zoom seats posts
- Serfa Kevlar Captain and Serfas Gel stroker. I believe they also have the original Serfas Kevlar stroke as well.
-Profile cages and probably bars.
-Pump peg on bottom to seat tube. Rack or fender? eyelets.
-Tubing is Reynolds 631
-No dents or dings
-Bottom bracket clamps together?


If I could get my wife to ride more than occasionally and had more room this would be in may garage, nicest tandem I have seen.



























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Seems kinda crazy to spend that kind of money on such a specialty bike and then not be into it anymore.
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Seems kinda crazy to spend that kind of money on such a specialty bike and then not be into it anymore.
Yea but its 20 years old. They rode avidly for years and years, raced MTB in the 80s and 90s. Loved cycling and sponsored teams etc. They know quality and this was one of their last bikes, but hit an age where they don't ride now. It dont think it has a lot of miles on it. I need to see how the chainring got messed up.

Other than disc it probably doesn't get much better for a steel tandem. And those hubs.
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Holy crap, totally awesome, you are right it doesn't get much better than this, Comotion is pretty much the gold standard in tandems, then and now, especially hard working ones.

The BB is eccentric for chain adjustment, loosen clamping bolts, rotate for adjusment.

White parts are the bomb, and normally bombproof, should be interesting to learn what happened to the chipped teeth. Perfect matchup for a tandem where tough stuff will help.

While 5k is obviously a lot of $$$, it is well spent on these and a very good value.

Also, exact sizing specs are going to be needed, I would hope they have the original build sheet, if this was custom built for them, your target market may be limited. Looks fairly normal, but you never know, anyone stepping up to buy one this nice will want it to be a good fit X2. Will probably be good to know the rider measurements also.


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Yea but its 20 years old. They rode avidly for years and years, raced MTB in the 80s and 90s. Loved cycling and sponsored teams etc. They know quality and this was one of their last bikes, but hit an age where they don't ride now. It dont think it has a lot of miles on it. I need to see how the chainring got messed up.

Other than disc it probably doesn't get much better for a steel tandem. And those hubs.

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Beautiful bike!

Merziac provided good info.

I would pm forum member Konaaronsnake and ask him about this bike's value.

He is a tandem guy.

FWIW These tandems are not easy to ship. I had a Jack Taylor offered to me last fall and the quoted shipping rates were ugly.
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Thanks @merziac. Ill ask them about this stuff. @gomango I couldn't find him by a search. I haven't seen recent posts by him either. Maybe try from computer later today.

Shipping is not only a little costly but can be a pain, especially if the other end is not familiar with. They don't Paypal, want to deal with shipping and use a landline so phone contact can be sporadic. They wanted me to have but I have too much and would rather see them make some money and find someone that will appreciate it. That's why I am trying to determine a fair price, then may post on those tandem classifieds out there. The buyer can talk to them once there is fairly serious interest. Just don't want them through the ringer.

I believe he is about 5'10". She is my wife's height. 5'4" . Pretty average heights. Both are normal proportion as far as I can tell. I'll get more info.
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What a wonderful to spend time with your wife or girlfriend if she is willing

Beautiful bike --- I had some of those White Industries components on some upper end MArin mountain bikes I used from that time frame ------ nice pieces of functional bike jewelry
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Beautiful bike, well appointed, but tandems are simply difficult to sell and never worth nearly as much as you think they should be. If you get an offer over $1000, take it. If you were exceedingly patient, maybe...you could get 1600-2000, but it would be probably be hard. Check the evaluation threads for prior tandem questions and you'll see why.

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Hard to ship
Hard to store
Limited market by TWO people it has to fit
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Thanks for the input. Those are within reason of what I thought for quick sale or listing. They are not in a hurry but also have no need for so will see what they decide.

I'm waiting to hear back on some questions and will figure out from there. I haven't listed anywhere yet but have had some interest just from this post due to the quality.
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Thanks for the input. Those are within reason of what I thought for quick sale or listing. They are not in a hurry but also have no need for so will see what they decide.

I'm waiting to hear back on some questions and will figure out from there. I haven't listed anywhere yet but have had some interest just from this post due to the quality.
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That's a very nice tandem! I agree with KonAaron Snake on valuation. Unfortunately tandems lose value very quickly due to the reasons he cited.

Almost all tandems in the last 7 or 8 years have gone to disc brakes which makes this one somewhat outdated. My wife and I rode a tandem with cantilevers and a drag brake for 20 years before upgrading to a bike with disc brakes 6 years ago. We did not die, nor did we crash because of the brakes, but I have to admit that the disc brakes do give more control and more confidence.
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Sorry I'm a little late to this conversation. You probably would have gotten better input on the Tandem Forum.

This is a very nice older Co-Motion in an average looking size and would still have nice value in the right market. This was a higher-end sport bike with the shorter reach side pull brake which are still sold on performance tandems. It is an older bike but still very marketable. Disc brake are becoming the norm but not universally. You live is a metro area with many potential tandem buyers and could easy get $1,500 on Craig's List. As an example, I sold our 1999 Cannondale for $1,100 a couple of springs ago.

You could also sell it on one of the tandem specific sites like the Tandem Club https://tandemclub.org/classifieds/browse-ads/

Or this site Tandem Bicycles For Sale, Tandem Bike Components For Sale

As with Craig's List, you have to watch for scammers. Good luck
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