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Old 04-05-18, 05:35 AM
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Pioneer?

Hello from a newbie. I recently bought what seems to be a late 80s racing bike. Brand is PIONEER, with FALCON derailleur and serial starting SY... . Haven't found anything about the brand, I suspect its Asian manufactured and PIONEER might be the product and not the brand itself. Any insight as to what its history could be? Many thanks.
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Old 04-05-18, 06:15 AM
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Private label bike, early 1970s. There were thousands of private label brands back then. Every department store, hardware store, even some gas stations were selling bikes. Contract manufacturers would slap any decals you wanted on the bike and you had your own brand.

Shimano started date codes in 1974, so if the rear derailleur doesn't have a code, its older than that.
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There was Pioneer brand owned by BCA/Kent in the 1990s. I can't envision anyone retro-fitting Falcon derailleurs to a bicycle. Assuming they are OEM and taken in conjunction with the crank style, I'd say it is much newer than 1970s. However, I do concur with grading it as box store level.
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Old 04-05-18, 11:58 AM
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Thank you @wrk101 and @T-Mar for your replies, they're much appreciated. Knowing it's not so prestigious, I'd personally still give it some credit at face value, seeming quite solid and fairly unmolested (for now) and quite possibly with the original gear intact, all while acknowledging that it will be used mainly for commuting. I'll be seeing how it continues to handle over time. Thanks again.
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There is also a Pioneer badge belonging to Motokov Praha of the former Czechoslovakia. It was part of a family of badges which also included Favorit, Jawa, Rapido, and Velamos. This other Pioneer badge was seen primarily on juvenile models.



Make of this bike? 50s? 60s?


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Thank you. I was also told that apparently Pioneer was a common (and cheap) Taiwanese brand in the early to mid 90s.
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