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What did I just buy? Please help

Looking to get some information on these bikes. I purchased all 3 in a lot. Year, model, possibly value? If anyone could please give me some insight, it would greatly be appreciated.

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Thanks Clang.

Any thoughts on what years these are from?
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The look like they are from the 70's. The Columbia could be a little older. Unfortunately, they are not really worth anything. They aren't rare or collectable, and they are in very poor shape.
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The look like they are from the 70's. The Columbia could be a little older. Unfortunately, they are not really worth anything. They aren't rare or collectable, and they are in very poor shape.

Nonsense. I've rescued worse.


Likely 60s bikes, the Aerolight is the same as a Wards' Hawthorne, green is a good color for them and I converted a 3 speed Hawthorne with a internally geared hub to a single speed once for a gift. Clean it up nice and you have a fast bike and a very nice frame.


I think the Columbia might be a mid-late 50s or early 60s middleweight, given the presence of the tank. Again, clean it up.


The Collegiate is also a decent 10-speed and the bonus is that it's not a Suburban.


These are all bikes you could clean up and fix without too many problems. I don't agree much with opinions about bikes like this being junk. Your mission should be to equip people with a nice bike of any level. In the end you will enjoy your efforts doing so.


Of course, I own six bikes made from 1946 to 1995 and all are 'cruisers' and I'm building two more for my niece and nephew. Wait until you see the professionally repainted DX fenders on my c.1953-4 straightbar Schwinn Hornet. 'Darla' is quite a lady!
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PS If you need to replace the decals on that Rollfast, bcrawf1 on eBay (Bruce Crawford, who has a graphics business for bikes and trucks in Ohio) is a go-to guy for me and many of my friends. He stocks that seat tube decal, I have it on my 60s cantilever Rosa.
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Nonsense. I've rescued worse.
It would take a lot of work to get them looking good. Even then I just can't really see them being worth anything.
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Again, you probably don't have the experience on that subject...it's easier than you suspect.


I don't really care what their ultimate value is as much as I can see how to put them back on the road.


My mom and I used to find old Schwinns and Huffys at bike junkyards and elsewhere and she could fix them up with the best of them.


Here is one of my favorites she built for me:


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If the goal is to make money on these three bikes, you won't. To lose the least amount of money, sell them as is. You won't get much, and have to decide what your time is worth as far as meeting possible tire kickers/buyers.


I like to at least break even on projects, and there are many projects available out there where I can. So while I could restore any of those bikes, I would end up losing money on all of them, assuming my labor was free.

Exact year has no bearing on value.

As far as equipping people with bikes, I do this every week volunteering at a co-op. Its not necessary to lose money to do good work. You can instead volunteer time and get people without the resources on bicycles. Since at the co-op we get donated bikes and parts, we can often get a bike back on the road at very little cost. The key is volunteer mechanics along with generous donators.

On projects I fund, I care about final value as the more I lose per bike the fewer bikes I can get back on the road. On the other hand, if I can at least breakeven, I can get a lot more bikes back on the road. I also end up running out of time. So I am very picky on personal projects, as you can lose money on free bikes.
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You should be able to determine the age of all three bicycles from the serial numbers.

Two ofthe bicycles havethe model name on them.

Regarding value, it is negligible in their current condition. End value will depend on well they clean up and how far you are willing to go with them,though I don't see a lot of value.
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Thanks for all of the replies.

The goal was to make a little money, but to be honest I don't mind holding onto these either.

I paid $23 for all 3 bikes, so I don't have much to lose. I thought the Columbia might have some potential, but of course it is in pretty poor condition.
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If the goal is to make money on these three bikes, you won't. To lose the least amount of money, sell them as is. You won't get much, and have to decide what your time is worth as far as meeting possible tire kickers/buyers.
Any idea on what the as is value is? Anyone? I believe the 10-speed has a a speedometer as well.
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$10 each. There aren't even any usable parts
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My suggestion is to clean them as best as possible, and then see what the bikes need. If it is just bearings, grease, and cables, you can decide whether it is worth it to continue with the bikes.
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You should be able to determine the age of all three bicycles from the serial numbers.

Two ofthe bicycles havethe model name on them.

Regarding value, it is negligible in their current condition. End value will depend on well they clean up and how far you are willing to go with them,though I don't see a lot of value.

There isn't any real solid resource for Rollfast serials that I know of. However, if you are looking for tips on how to fix up your bikes, look around here and on The CABE. They cover bikes from the beginning to fairly recently (there are klunker and MTB builds of cruisers and BMX there are well) and either way is going to help.


Now what I am having a problem with here is some of you basically telling the thread starter they have old junk. It's not so much about are they going to make money off them as maybe they'll fix them a little and pass them on or something. There is a lot to be said for 'plain Jane' bikes and passing them down helps another, if that's what is wished. This site is all about promoting the bicycle hobby, ALL bikes, not just the fancy ones. Get somebody on the street today!


So they are NOT worthless!


PS See my avatar? I had the BB weld go twice and had to get it crossbraced by a very good welder friend. That bike brought me here 11 years ago. It was not like that when I got it, there were layers of paint and primer over it, even the headbadge, had to get another.
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Everything is worth something to somebody. Hope you didn’t pay more then 10 bucks each for them though. Tim
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Again, you probably don't have the experience on that subject...it's easier than you suspect.


I don't really care what their ultimate value is as much as I can see how to put them back on the road.
I have a pretty good amount of experience. I've rebuilt many rough bikes from the frame up including prewar double bar roadsters. I know how to do it, and it's a lot of work. I just really enjoy doing it.

This forum is specifically about worth and resale value. Which these bikes just don't have.
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Any idea on what the as is value is? Anyone? I believe the 10-speed has a a speedometer as well.
It looks like a 5 speed Collegiate to me. Out of the three this would be the only one worth it to me. Schwinn paint and chrome was TOUGH. You would be surprised how well it polishes up. But it needs new everything (tires, cables, ect)... you won't make any money on a complete rebuild.

Since you said resale is the goal, I'd would just wash the dirt off these bikes and resale them as projects for maybe 5 to 10 dollars each. If either of the coaster brakes are Bendix, cut them out of the wheel and sell separate. People are looking for those.
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Now what I am having a problem with here is some of you basically telling the thread starter they have old junk. It's not so much about are they going to make money off them as maybe they'll fix them a little and pass them on or something. There is a lot to be said for 'plain Jane' bikes and passing them down helps another, if that's what is wished. This site is all about promoting the bicycle hobby, ALL bikes, not just the fancy ones. Get somebody on the street today!


So they are NOT worthless!

You seem to be having some other sort of problem. What the OP can do, or wants to do, and what you can do, or want to do, aren't related. It's not an issue of whether the bikes can be restored or not. Any bike can be restored. The OP wanted a value, as-is, and the value for these in dollars, as-is, is basically nothing.

The cost to make them presentable to sell is more than the value they'd bring, unless they were in a condition to wash them off, oil the chains, and put air in the tires, which they aren't. All 3 bikes have unusable wheelsets, the rims are too far gone to ever clean up, and all 3 couldn't be ridden without replacement tires. It's doubtful the tubes are of any value, and I'd imagine at least 2 of the 3 have rust-frozen chains. Sure, a flipper with lots of spare parts could throw on some spare wheels and tires and chains, but honestly, any good spare wheel and tire would have more value than the bikes, so why go through the process? It's like buying a donor bike that's in better shape than the one you want parts for.

As to promoting the bicycle hobby, I don't believe that giving someone an answer they asked for, is bad for any endeavor, cycling or not. If the members of Bikeforums represented their knowledge of bikes by a consensus that these bikes had more than a negligible value, then "promoting the bicycle hobby" would not be getting accomplished. The bikes have little or no monetary value.
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I'm not even arguing that. What I'm calling out is people calling them junk, which is putting the OP down. Obviously I have a different viewpoint. I never implied that they'd make money, but there is an intrinsic value in a job well done and perhaps helping someone.

I saved a 60s ladies' Huffy from becoming yard art in Ohio, and it wasn't cheap, but now I find my niece needs a bike, and that is worth the money I put into it.

Now, I'm done with that.
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Can say they all look to be late mid 60;s Collegiate is actually likely a 64-68 since it is a single front and what look to be original chrome fenders frame looks like it will clean up nice and you would be surprised how much the chrome will clean up with some WD-40 fine steel wool. As far as value as presented $75 each on the two step throughs and a $100 on the collegiate as presented maybe a bit more dependiong on how nice it cleans up with just some cleaning so you did alright on your purchase.
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What I'm calling out is people calling them junk, which is putting the OP down. Obviously I have a different viewpoint. I never implied that they'd make money, but there is an intrinsic value in a job well done and perhaps helping someone.
No one called the bikes junk, and no one put the OP down by giving them a valuation for their bikes. There wasn't any emotional involvement in this, by the OP, who found some cheap bikes for $23 and wanted to know what value they had.

Sure, there's always intrinsic value in a job well done, no one here would ever argue that. It doesn't, however, equate to monetary value in a resale, which is what the OP asked for. And, about "helping someone", how is giving a fair market value appraisal to someone who asks for it, for free, not "helping someone"?
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The Collegiate appears to be a '71 through early '73 model. The serial no. on the headtube will indicate when the frame was stamped.
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Thanks everyone, really appreciate it. I've learned some things

BTW, I take no offense to the bikes being junk. It is what it is. I paid a junk price, so I can't honestly expect much. I appreciate everyones honesty & Rollfasts perspective & optimism.

What I've taken from this is the Collegiate is worth salvaging the most. I've gotten a pretty wide range of dates. Will be able to check serial number when I pick up from auction house.

I'm guessing #2 would be the Columbia? Regardless it looks like it wasn't the score I imagined when I paid $23 for the lot.
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