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Colnago Team Bike ca. 1993 with Columbus EL - What IS this??

Old 04-20-18, 10:40 PM
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Colnago Elegant ca. 1993 with Columbus EL

Here's a mystery of a bike. Absolutely zero info on the internet. A team bike, but I can't find a single reference anywhere to Team "Vuelta" Italy! The frame is apparently constructed from Columbus EL tubing, but I can't find other similar examples. Custom bike? Gorgeous Wordperfect paint scheme, which dates it to 1993/1994. Looks black but is actually really dark metallic purple. Apparent in bright sunlight. Early carbon Look HSC fork and carbon Campy racing wheels. Any information at all would be appreciated. What's the model name? Approximate value? Thanks.
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It is an Elegant.

What makes you think that it is a team bike?
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Team?

Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
It is an Elegant.

What makes you think that it is a team bike?
Thatís what seller said. Mostly because it has a team saddle, which I suppose proves nothing without more info. It does have racing wheels too. But (duh) itís a racing bike, so I guess that proves nothing.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz View Post
It is an Elegant.

What makes you think that it is a team bike?
Correct info.

WordPerfect paint scheme.

I have one and itís 👍.

Also, nice flame point Siamese in the pic.
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Old 04-23-18, 02:16 PM
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If this was an ex-Team WordPerect bicycle, I would think that it would have a number peg.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
If this was an ex-Team WordPerect bicycle, I would think that it would have a number peg.

They did.

Mine didn't have one either.

FWIW Colnago confused this short run model a bit when they put EL decals on ELOS framesets.

The first run of the framesets was EL and apparently they decided to use up the decals on hand.

Check into their tube specs a bit and you'll see what I mean.

Here's a pic of mine.

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Can someone PLEASE tell me what a bike like this would be worth, exactly as shown? Near mint, 9++ condition with 1st gen. Campy "Bora" carbon wheels which are in excellent condition, Campy record components. The problem is that it has a period correct Look carbon fork rather than a Colnago chrome fork, and ITM stem rather than a Colnago branded stem.
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That's a pretty bike with a pretty p**sy..
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Originally Posted by Horochar View Post
Can someone PLEASE tell me what a bike like this would be worth, exactly as shown? Near mint, 9++ condition with 1st gen. Campy "Bora" carbon wheels which are in excellent condition, Campy record components. The problem is that it has a period correct Look carbon fork rather than a Colnago chrome fork, and ITM stem rather than a Colnago branded stem.
i think $1500 is a fair enough guess
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i think $1500 is a fair enough guess
Thanks. Guessing that by adding the fork (assuming I can find one for $200 or less) will increase its value by $200 or more. But that, too, is a guess. The market for these bikes is tricky. I think I overpaid based on the value of things I traded to get it. I was hoping for a number more in the range of $2000-$2500. Life moves on.

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Originally Posted by Horochar View Post


Thanks. Guessing that by adding the fork (assuming I can find one for $200 or less) will increase its value by $200 or more. But that, too, is a guess. The market for these bikes is tricky. I think I overpaid based on the value of things I traded to get it. I was hoping for a number more in the range of $2000-$2500. Life moves on.
$1,300.

Maybe a titch more.
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Anyone know, would this take a threaded or unthreaded fork? A local bike expert said unthreaded, but in trying to research Colnago forks online, such a thing doesn't seem to exist. Thanks.
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Those forks are pretty hard to find (ask me how I know ) and the asking price should reflect that. Also, tubulars are kind of a pain in the neck, another thing that should be reflected in the asking price and/or your offer.
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Originally Posted by Horochar View Post
Anyone know, would this take a threaded or unthreaded fork? A local bike expert said unthreaded, but in trying to research Colnago forks online, such a thing doesn't seem to exist. Thanks.
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Threaded.
The bicycle in the original post is set set up with a threadless headset and non-quill stem. It can be convertred to threaded, like the one in post #7, by purchasing a threaded fork, threaded headset and quill stem.
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The bike is beautiful as is, with the carbon fork, and the black/white bar tape offering perfect symmetry with the black/white saddle. Wheels look gorgeous on it as well. Leave it alone and ride it!
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I would leave the fork as is also it would be costly to and time consuming to change and wouldn't increase value a lot. Figure a original fork, colonago panto quill stem and nice campy headset to put it back to original would cost $300+ and only add $100-200 to the value. As is I would say its in the $1500-1800 range.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
The bicycle in the original post is set set up with a threadless headset and non-quill stem. It can be convertred to threaded, like the one in post #7, by purchasing a threaded fork, threaded headset and quill stem.

My bad, I was looking at the one in post #7.
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I would leave the fork as is also it would be costly to and time consuming to change and wouldn't increase value a lot. Figure a original fork, colonago panto quill stem and nice campy headset to put it back to original would cost $300+ and only add $100-200 to the value. As is I would say its in the $1500-1800 range.
If anyone needs one of these, I would happily sell mine for $1,500-$1,800.
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If anyone needs one of these, I would happily sell mine for $1,500-$1,800.
LOL, Italian bike hoarder. Love it! (I'm going to message you, so look out).
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Originally Posted by zukahn1 View Post
I would leave the fork as is also it would be costly to and time consuming to change and wouldn't increase value a lot. Figure a original fork, colonago panto quill stem and nice campy headset to put it back to original would cost $300+ and only add $100-200 to the value. As is I would say its in the $1500-1800 range.
Thanks zukahn, that really puts my mind on ease. I'm always a fan of leaving well enough alone. Someone who quite obviously races bikes (although strangely not this one -- it's in mint condition) put it together this way for a reason, and the carbon bits are absolutely period correct. Pity about losing the fork, from a strictly cosmetic sense, but this was a deliberate decision. I.e. it was not swapped out because the fork croaked in a crash. Of that I'm certain.
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Ask him if he kept the fork?

It depends on where the bike is located but I don't think you should pay much more than $1000. Not just because of the missing fork, but, in general, vintage bike prices are way down compared to a few years ago.

If the seller wants a lot more, walk, you can do better for $1000.
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Yep, paid $600 for mine (near mint Ferrari red, actual (ladies) team bike, 9S Chorus, original fork) last year after I watched it sit unwanted at $900 for a couple of months.

Feels quite light and rides beautifully with ride quality comparable to my Nuovo Mexicos so well worth the money i.m.o.
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