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'76 Raleigh Competition

Old 05-03-18, 08:07 AM
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'76 Raleigh Competition




Came across this well preserved Raleigh at my local enabler's shop

I do not have any experience with machinery this old, but I do recognize some of the components from other builds I have seen on the boards here

I'm assuming the Campagnolo equipped Professional was top of the line, and the Competition model presented here is one rung on the ladder lower ----- looks like a 531 Reynolds decal , and bike is still wearing its tubulars - which I consider a plus

---- The shop was really busy yesterday and I was basically just out for a stroll, ----

Does this look roughly like a 53? And what is the top end value on this bike - I may ask about the price today as the condition of the bike intrigues me, -- and I have paid more in the past for bikes than the collective here thinks should be top end without batting an eye if I really wanted it, ----- but this machine doesn't really strike any chords of passion in me,- but it is fun to look at ---- I would ballpark the weight at around 22 -22.5 , -- I was shocked considering the heavy Brooks saddle











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Old 05-03-18, 08:33 AM
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They come up here regular in the $400 range. Here's one...
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...550477842.html
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Old 05-03-18, 08:56 AM
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You aren't off by much on your weight guesstimate. Depending upon how you look at this list, the competition was 4th down on the list. I don't count the track bike for obvious reasons. Frame sizing was in inches as you can see and I'd go out on a limb and say maybe 22 1/2"? Could certainly be 21 1/2" but certainly not 23 1/2". I love those old Raleighs!
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The Competition was 3rd in the line, below the Professional and International. It's Reynolds 531 DB, the full set. It not completely OEM, as the OEM Huret Jubilee rear derailleur has been replaced with a long cage version, likely to handle the freewheel,which appears to have been changed from a 24T to a 28T. The Jubilee is highly praised for its lightness and the long case version is more rare, so that's actually a bonus. The TA Pro cranks have a proprietary puller and the chainrings are getting rare, but fortunately the double sided park puller is TA compatible and the chainrings are in great condition. The brakes and wheels are good but nothing special. Regarding size, this appears to be the 22-1/2" version. I know that I could part this out and quite easily get in excess of $500 US.
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Didn't realize they made that many "Race ready" models

Pretty cool bike --- never thought they'd spec one with a Brooks, but Brooks being an English company, it makes sense
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
Didn't realize they made that many "Race ready" models

Pretty cool bike --- never thought they'd spec one with a Brooks, but Brooks being an English company, it makes sense
Raleigh/Carlton made machines that were indeed "Race ready" out of the box, glue on the tubulars, line up w/ your Team/Pro/International or Competition and give it a go.
The International and Competition models were typical of the high-end British Club machines which were expected to have clearance for mudguards and be capable of carrying a self supported overnight load at pace on the rough secondary roads of the era for weekend club events and stripped of accessories with the sprint/tubular wheels fitted to contest TT and hill climb events the next. Highly versatile and practical machines they make for particularly good FG conversions in the British tradition as well.

PS: Pic looks to be a 22 1/2"

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...what T-Mar said. The ones that come up here in the $400 price range are never that well preserved, and often missing the Huret derailleurs.
As often as not, whatever has been substituted has been wrongly installed, not taking into account the tab positioning.
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Old 05-03-18, 04:02 PM
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@TugaDude, @T-Mar, @3alarmer, @Bandera

Thanks for the information on these --- I truly learn something new every day

For $250, --- I took it home --- its not quite my era of interest but I have already drummed up some requests to "facilitate" - so it will be going to another great home soon . T-Mar hit the nail on the head, -- that is a 28t cluster in back with a longish RDR cage

We never determined the exact size in Imperial units because we couldn't figure out how they came up with the measurements -- (straight up from the BB, or following the seat tube angle ) , but suffice to say, its a 56c .

Given that I ride modern 53 and 54c bikes, --- I think this would actually be pretty close on the fit for me with a traditional 1976 era saddle height , so I am definitely gonna ride it before it leaves my hands ! -- IT will be fun as the last week I have been spending time on a new Di2, disc brake S-Works Tarmac. I will be able to see the difference 40 years has really made ! A lot of my other "vintage" machines are early 90's, so they already have brifters and good brakes -- I can tell a difference in weight and performance between the newest stuff sure, -- but its hard to call "only" having 8 or 9 speeds a handicap with a straight face

Oh ---- and the answer to the ages old cycling question ----- 23.17 pounds -- with pedals, and with the Brooks -- Not bad, not bad at all and right in line with what the catalog says --- Cant say that about the new stuff --- the aforementioned S-Works weighs 15lb 6 oz, but without pedals ---- after I installed pedals and alloy bars and post (I'm a Clydesdale) - weight was 17 lbs





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Old 05-03-18, 07:16 PM
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That is a beauty and a bargain, bonus!
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Old 05-18-18, 09:03 AM
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I purchased a 1977 Competition GS(first year for the Campy Competition) for $350 a couple of years ago. It had never been ridden and had a few little marks on it , but was still in new condition.I love the bike it is not the fastest bike I own but a solid bike I can take anywhere. It gets more compliments than anything i have ridden, I guess because it looks so nice in black and is in really good shape. They are great bikes, Joe
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Sweet old roadie.
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