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Old 06-12-18, 08:18 AM
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hello to everyone this is my first post and im in search of some light into the matter if some of the bikes in my collection are worth keeping or they are better to be sold and leave space for new projects, the bikes in question are 4, 1- a peugeot (not my only one but one of the nicest) 531 reynolds, 2- juncker (a brand of bikes owned by gazelle), 3- an old manufrance hirondell, 4- an also old bertin bicycle.

i hope you guys can help me to figurate if one or more of these bikes are worth keeping around. thank you!
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sorry it very annoying to try to upload pictures, as i cant do it or post url, if someone its interested in the pictures maybe could tell me how to upload some pictures, thank you

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hello to everyone this is my first post and im in search of some light into the matter if some of the bikes in my collection are worth keeping or they are better to be sold and leave space for new projects, the bikes in question are 4, 1- a peugeot (not my only one but one of the nicest) 531 reynolds, 2- juncker (a brand of bikes owned by gazelle), 3- an old manufrance hirondell, 4- an also old bertin bicycle.

i hope you guys can help me to figurate if one or more of these bikes are worth keeping around. thank you!
well instead of just writing empty posts i can describe the bikes i need help with.
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Manufrance hirondelle

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hello to everyone this is my first post and im in search of some light into the matter if some of the bikes in my collection are worth keeping or they are better to be sold and leave space for new projects, the bikes in question are 4, 1- a peugeot (not my only one but one of the nicest) 531 reynolds, 2- juncker (a brand of bikes owned by gazelle), 3- an old manufrance hirondell, 4- an also old bertin bicycle.

i hope you guys can help me to figurate if one or more of these bikes are worth keeping around. thank you!

well this manufrance bike seems to be a very early one, the painting its not in great shape but its original and its still looking good, the shifters are simplex and it came with a suicide shifter (i think i read that name somewhere) where the front changes are operated by a lever, came also with the original manufrance leather seat.
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well this manufrance bike seems to be a very early one, the painting its not in great shape but its original and its still looking good, the shifters are simplex and it came with a suicide shifter (i think i read that name somewhere) where the front changes are operated by a lever, came also with the original manufrance leather seat.
Just a wild shot, but maybe you could browse this Peugeot catalog from 1974 and see if any of the models match yours.
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sorry it very annoying to try to upload pictures, as i cant do it or post url, if someone its interested in the pictures maybe could tell me how to upload some pictures, thank you
Its very annoying
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hello to everyone this is my first post and im in search of some light into the matter if some of the bikes in my collection are worth keeping or they are better to be sold and leave space for new projects, the bikes in question are 4, 1- a peugeot (not my only one but one of the nicest) 531 reynolds, 2- juncker (a brand of bikes owned by gazelle), 3- an old manufrance hirondell, 4- an also old bertin bicycle.

i hope you guys can help me to figurate if one or more of these bikes are worth keeping around. thank you!
the bertin bike also seems very old and original, also an old paint, with no stikers but all the brand names on the paint, also
old leather seat and simplex shifters, love the barn look of this bike i would like to preserve it like it is.

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Looking forward to pics. But even without them, I’d say keep all of those fabulous bikes!
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hej i did that, im sure my bike its not from the 70's, the only peugeot similar to the one i have is a peugeot called px10, but from the 80's. the shifters are both gipiemme simplex.
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haha, thank you, the problem is that i have already too many bikes and as i like to keep fixing them sadly from time to time, i gotta get rid of them, for example in these days im getting rid of a nice old gitane bike qith mafac race brakes and huret shifters, its a super nice looking bike.
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yeah, i got that idea too, but i guess its hard to post some pictures in a first try, i was trying to make some descriptions but with out some pictures it does not help much.

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i also wanted to ask, there are people who knows about gitane bikes? i have one that i was recovering, sadly the paint its like 90% ok, but it looks like a nice bike, it has a very old huret shifter and mafac brakes, it came with mafac race brakes and i was thinking to exange those for normal mafac competition as they look the same but the race mafac seem to me a bit more vintage and maybe i could use them in another bike.
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The Juncker looks tot be the equivalent of the Gazelle Tour de France, a very solid hi-ten touring bike. Not very collectible, but yours seems to be in good nick. PO was Dutch, judging by the 'politie' sticker.
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I would likely keep the Hirondelle since it seems the actual nicest bike of the bunch even if in tough condition and the Peuget since it looks t be in nice riding shape and would likely sell for less than it's worth as a rider. The Bertin seems nice but the cosmetics and condition are rough and the clunker is a just OK bike in nice riding condition which would likely sell pretty easy in most markets.
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Cool bikes and cool stereo system; 2 of my favorite things,

The Pug looks to be an immaculate PX 10 or equivalent bike with a 531 sticker but we'll need a drive side pic as well. Are you based in Europe? Those bikes are distinctly European looking. Yes we have some Gitane experts here but again we'll need some pics.
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Cool bikes and cool stereo system; 2 of my favorite things,

The Pug looks to be an immaculate PX 10 or equivalent bike with a 531 sticker but we'll need a drive side pic as well. Are you based in Europe? Those bikes are distinctly European looking. Yes we have some Gitane experts here but again we'll need some pics.

yeah! I live in berlin, i like to bring to life old stuff, as bikes or old stero systems, the problem start when you have too many so you gotta select the ones you want less to make room for new projects, the peugeot i will keep, also the hirondelle, as i like the color and the old looking.





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Sehr schon, ich habe en Deutschland gewohnt aber leider es gibt viel zeit das ich habe kein Deutsch gesprochen. Berlin is cool, I know southern Germany pretty well where people speak Schwabisch,

So that looks like a good Gitane. It has the honeycomb dropouts and good drop outs are generally the sign of a quality bike. The neat thing about those drop outs is that they work with almost any derailleur. Does the bike have any tubing stickers? I'm guessing that the main triangle at least must be pretty good tubing.
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Gitane -

Appears to hail from the 1974-76 time. The top tube transfer suggests it came to Berlin by way of NL. BOCAMA lugset. Wears the very rare NERVEX quick releases in its Normandy Sport hubs. Altenburger extension brake levers paired with MAFAC calipers make for an odd mix. Huret Svelto gear ensemble. Lyotard model 5R pedals. Weinmann rims.

In second image head and seat angles appear surprisingly shallow. Do they look like that to others or is it just me auld visual receptors?

Model looks to be Tour de L'Avenir. Could be model nr. 1813, 1950 or 1953.

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1974_pg1.jpg

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you are totally right i havent finished it but i also have the original air pump as in the picture, the brake levers are due berlin needs some easy stoppers as the normal ones could be hard to reach in the crazy traffic sometimes, i have other mafac ones but they are part of another bike and as i decided to let go the gitane to make space to something else its not the end of the world, i think the angle of the picture and the no finish position of the seat give that shallow impression, how much do you think a good working order of a bike like this cost? as in berlin you have from little to the couple grands for the same bikes depending one how hipster is your store, i have a buyer but i cant shake the feeling that im letting it go too cheap. but as there are not a lot of gitane around here i would like to know in your opinion how much could it cost. thank you by the way for your message you got it everything, its impressive.
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