Are these worth anything?
09-04-18, 04:28 AM
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Hmm, OP, I think you may be misunderstanding what the other poster was saying - he knows that these are not pieces of junk. He’s talking about your judgment that these bikes should be turned into single-speeds, and the way you said that.I could be misunderstanding your misunderstanding
, but I had a similarly puzzled reaction to your decision.
09-04-18, 04:34 AM
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Apparently that brand (Landis) was very unpopular or was around for a very short time and didn’t sell too many. If anybody could find any information on this brand I would like to have a link because I’m coming up with absolutely nothing. All I can find regarding that name is a bike shop in Arizona and some pro racer who got in trouble for doping.
09-04-18, 05:13 AM
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Apparently that brand (Landis) was very unpopular or was around for a very short time and didn’t sell too many. If anybody could find any information on this brand I would like to have a link because I’m coming up with absolutely nothing. All I can find regarding that name is a bike shop in Arizona and some pro racer who got in trouble for doping.
Look for a serial number, most likely the Landis was made under Giant or Panasonic, then imported under that name. I'd guess the Landis is from the mid to late 80s, the Takara a little older. The Landis would have been a nice ride, the Shimano 400 stuff works well, the Dia Compe brakes have a QR.
09-04-18, 05:16 AM
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Look for a serial number, most likely the Landis was made under Giant or Panasonic, then imported under that name. I'd guess the Landis is from the mid to late 80s, the Takara a little older. The Landis would have been a nice ride, the Shimano 400 stuff works well, the Dia Compe brakes have a QR.
09-04-18, 05:27 AM
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I'm not familiar with the Landis brand.but it is probably a a small ,private label brand. It is mid-to late 1980s. What complicates the dating is the presence of friction Z-series shift levers with an SIS compatible Light Action rear derailleur. It seems strange that they would bother with the extra expense of an SIS compatible rear derailleur, only to pair it with friction shift levers. Consequently, the rear derailleur may be a replacement, as shift levers rarely fail, outside of the index mechanism , in which case most owners simply switch them friction mode. However,the fade paint has be leaning more towards late 1980s. Regardless, I'd classify it as an upper entry level, recreational sports model.
The brand itself it not so important, as it is almost certainly contract manufactured in Asia. More important is the manufacturer, as they likely also handled some major brands. To this end, the serial number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact year.
I'd place the Takara at the same level based on the SunTour AR derailleurs, which date it circa 1982-1986. Again,it was contract manufactured in Asia and the seria number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact model year.
The brand itself it not so important, as it is almost certainly contract manufactured in Asia. More important is the manufacturer, as they likely also handled some major brands. To this end, the serial number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact year.
I'd place the Takara at the same level based on the SunTour AR derailleurs, which date it circa 1982-1986. Again,it was contract manufactured in Asia and the seria number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact model year.
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And maybe a portal to a better world of bicycle-specific transportation infrastructure, a world of safe and happy riding.
Nice find.
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09-04-18, 05:35 AM
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I'm not familiar with the Landis brand.but it is probably a a small ,private label brand. It is mid-to late 1980s. What complicates the dating is the presence of friction Z-series shift levers with an SIS compatible Light Action rear derailleur. It seems strange that they would bother with the extra expense of an SIS compatible rear derailleur, only to pair it with friction shift levers. Consequently, the rear derailleur may be a replacement, as shift levers rarely fail, outside of the index mechanism , in which case most owners simply switch them friction mode. However,the fade paint has be leaning more towards late 1980s. Regardless, I'd classify it as an upper entry level, recreational sports model.
The brand itself it not so important, as it is almost certainly contract manufactured in Asia. More important is the manufacturer, as they likely also handled some major brands. To this end, the serial number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact year.
I'd place the Takara at the same level based on the SunTour AR derailleurs, which date it circa 1982-1986. Again,it was contract manufactured in Asia and the seria number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact model year.
The brand itself it not so important, as it is almost certainly contract manufactured in Asia. More important is the manufacturer, as they likely also handled some major brands. To this end, the serial number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact year.
I'd place the Takara at the same level based on the SunTour AR derailleurs, which date it circa 1982-1986. Again,it was contract manufactured in Asia and the seria number may allow us to identify the manufacturer and exact model year.
when I get home this afternoon I will scratch down some serial numbers and post them on line to see if anybody can help me out. Considering the wheels are junk on the Landis, and I don’t have a spare set to put on, I’m not sure it’s worth purchasing wheels for this bike. The Takara on the other hand could be ready to go. I am up in the air as to what I’m going to do right now but I think I could at least get one nice bike out of these two. The Landis is definitely a prettier bike with that paint scheme. And despite what I said earlier I might just leave the gears on.
The other option is to fix one of these bikes up and if my son ever tells me he wants to take a bike to college I give him one of these. I’m not sure if he’ll ever want to start riding a bike up there but I was worried that he might decide to and then he would want to take my Panasonic. I would much rather him take one of these two in case it gets stolen.
09-04-18, 01:56 PM
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Here are pics of the serial numbers on the B.B. shell. The black paint is the Takara. I presume the “80” under the serial means 1980? This bike has all the features of a midrange bike. Standard gum hoods without the brake safety levers. Shifters on down tube not stem. QR wheels etc. also noticed what appears to be a grease zert or nipple on the HT of the Landis. Interesting.
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