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Merckx Corsa fever

Old 09-11-18, 03:04 PM
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Merckx Corsa fever

I've developed a fever for a good Eddy Merckx after realizing how common they are here in the Netherlands. The Dutch version of CL is marktplaats.nl, which is a bizzaro-world version of CL merged with ebay, but with less clarity and structure and safeguards. I won't bore you with my frustrations in dealing with some of these sellers (just know that bids are completely non-binding, and sellers are under no obligation to honor their stated target prices) - what's important is that there's one of these bikes that I'm actively bidding on, and if I don't get it I may go after one of the others. I'm also showing the others so you can get a sense of prices here (my impression is that these beautiful bikes are cheaper here, though the Euro is higher than the dollar). Anyway, looking for your thoughts. The one I'm most interested in is the first one. I normally ride a 58cm c:c, and I think these bikes tend to be measured c:t, although I find that Marktplaats sellers are terrible at measuring, and I know I'm fine with up to a 58-60cm c:t or 57-59cm c:c.

Corsa 01, apparently from 1998, with 10-s Campagnolo (mostly Daytona), Chorus hubs on Mavic CXP33 rims. 460 euros is the current high bid.



There are several others for comparison, either Corsa Extra or Corsa 01, some not quite my ideal size, some a little further away, but all in the ballpark.

Corsa Extra 56cm full Dura Ace, Fir Apollo wheel set, weird TT bars? Asking 500 euros, 350 current bid. Not familiar with those wheels, hate the stem and seat-post. Pretty sure it's too small for me - is that really a 56?




Corsa Extra 56cm? 1985? Campagnolo components, Mavic G40 wheels, current bid 410 euros.




Corsa Extra 56cm? 1985? Campagnolo components, Mavic G40 wheels, current bid 410 euros. The least vintage-looking of the bunch I think.




Corsa Extra 60cm claimed (looks smaller) Campagnolo Daytona groupset, Ambrosio Balance rims 600 euros firm (no bids).



You can follow the links to see more photos, though be warned that Marktplaats photos are low res, and most sellers do a suboptimal job of photographing, and describing, their bikes. The one I'm chasing has been listed 4 times in the last 6 weeks (seriously!), and I've corresponded with the seller off and on during this time. I mention this to say that I could be the high bidder and he might just take the ad down and keep the bike, which he's done before, so that's part of the reason I'm looking at the others. Aside from the fact that the sizes might not be quite right for me, and the second bike shown has some weird bars and seat post, are there any red flags on any of these? Is the first one shown as nice a bike as I think it is? I like what I've read about the Dedicatti 01 tubeset, but I'm not sure how it compares to the SLX of the Corsa Extra (I can guess that my butt won't be able to tell the difference).

I know these aren't truly vintage, but I know many here have lots of Merckx experience, and they sure are classic.
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Your best bet is the first one, and there's plenty of headroom between current bid and actual value. I'd bid on that one.
Second one is interesting with flat fork crown, but a lot of weirdness there to be replaced to make it normal. And it's a 55-56.
Third one is an 88-89' Panasonic team colorway, within your size limits and appears in good shape. If you like Campagnolo, this would be my second choice.
Black and red one looks like much later, possibly replacement threadless fork. I would pass.
Bottom one is maybe a 58-59, solid rider, nothing too fancy, also later production model.

Zero-Uno used in Corsa 01 frames is good stuff, and the early ones with threaded forks are terrific riders. Little crazy-fancy on the paint, but great to ride. Generally speaking the ones with hidden top tube cables are from 88 or later; the early ones had both entry and exit at 12 O'clock, the later ones rotated the front entry to thr side to avoid water entry.

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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
Your best bet is the first one, and there's plenty of headroom between current bid and actual value. I'd bid on that one.
Second one is interesting with flat fork crown, but a lot of weirdness there to be replaced to make it normal. And it's a 55-56.
Third one is an 88-89' Panasonic team colorway, within your size limits and appears in good shape. If you like Campagnolo, this would be my second choice.
Black and red one looks like much later, possibly replacement threadless fork. I would pass.
Bottom one is maybe a 58-59, solid rider, nothing too fancy, also later production model.

Zero-Uno used in Corsa 01 frames is good stuff, and the early ones with threaded forks are terrific riders. Little crazy-fancy on the paint, but great to ride. Generally speaking the ones with hidden top tube cables are from 88 or later; the early ones had both entry and exit at 12 O'clock, the later ones rotated the front entry to thr side to avoid water entry.



Thank you, exactly what I was looking for. I agree about the "crazy-fancy" paint jobs. I have seen so many Merckxes with crazy paint, though, that it feels like it fits. I also don't have a particular affinity for the common team colors that are common on these bikes, though some are quite nice (Team Stuttgart and Motorola come to mind). I would love just a simple throw-back Moleini-orange, but since I now have an orange Koga-Miyata courtesy of @non-fixie, that itch is scratched for now.

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I agree with Doc, the Corsa 01 and the Panasonic are the best ones to my eye. The one after the Panasonic is not an Ď85. I think if you can get a complete bike for $600 US, youíre doing well, even if components arenít top end. This seller on US eBay has had some good ones recently. Iíve heard this is a legit seller.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx...oAAOSwlUhbkZHJ

There are a couple of other Dutch sellers on Us eBay, so might be worthwhile to keep an eye on that to work a local pick up. I bought my Tommasini from a Dutch seller but canít remember which one.

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The Merckx is mine

Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
I agree with Doc, the Corsa 01 and the Panasonic are the best ones to my eye. The one after the Panasonic is not an Ď85. I think if you can get a complete bike for $600 US, youíre doing well, even if components arenít top end. This seller on US eBay has had some good ones recently. Iíve heard this is a legit seller.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx...oAAOSwlUhbkZHJ

There are a couple of other Dutch sellers on Us eBay, so might be worthwhile to keep an eye on that to work a local pick up. I bought my Tommasini from a Dutch seller but canít remember which one.

Didnt you used to live in New Orleans?
The Corsa 01 is mine. After seemingly endless shenanigans on Marktplaats, I took the train down to Rotterdam, Ubered to the guy's house, bought it, and rode it about 8 miles back to the train station. He was my size so I didn't have to adjust anything, and I flew on those bike lanes. I then got off the train to Amsterdam one stop early so I could ride some more. Once home got some food (I'd skipped lunch to go get it), swapped the saddle, and took it out for an hour in the waning light. It's very tight, the components and wheels are in great shape, and the seller gave me a set of new chain rings (he'd replaced the old ones at the beginning of summer, and then decided he wanted a 50t big ring instead of the 52t he'd just bought, along with a correspondingly slightly smaller small ring, so what's on the bike are nearly new, and the spares even newer). The saddle is a brand new Selle Italia Flight, which looks great, but for my asymmetric sitz bones is an ass-hatchet. I will probably try to sell it to buy another Brooks or similar. The Shimano pedals are also virtually new.

It would be absolutely perfect for me if it had a 10cm stem instead of an 11, and 40cm bars instead of 42, but these are quibbles.The tires don't match, but they're both good quality with lots of wear left. Cassette, cables/housing, and chain were all replaced at the beginning of summer. I got it for under 500 Euros. What's ironic is about a year ago I missed out on a very similar Corsa Extra, in 7-11 colors, with similar components and wheels. The seller was selling it for a silly low price (in the US) of $600, after he'd bought it on eBay for twice that (he moaned that he'd been on eBay while drinking). He sold that out from under me after we'd agreed to price and meeting time, mostly because he was spooked by my California cell number. Anyway, I now have a Merckx that is at least as nice as that one, for less money that what I'd have considered a huge steal at the time.

And yes, I was most recently in Shreveport, then Shreveport/NOLA, and now happily in Holland. And I'm still lusting for another Tommasini, with my Racing in storage in the States. Don't know where I'd keep it in our tiny Amsterdam apt., but what are you going to do?
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Nicely done! That bike looks fast!
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It certainly was the most attractive.
The Black, yellow, and red one looked like it would have been the most comfortable to ride. I also thought it looked like throw up.
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