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Old 11-23-18, 06:28 PM
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Ochsner...?

so I found this Ochsner road bike... everything I can see looks very clean, only components I can Id from pics are Shimano sealed head set, Shimano 600 brakes, Campagnolo downtube shifters. The frame is a deep blue and appears to say Columbus on the forks. Anyone have any ideas itís a beautiful looking bike and a decent price. Thanks for any help in advance........just a few more posts and I can add oics
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After closer inspection of the pics I think the forks say Ochsner. Only 2 pics and not so good
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Hello, I have a 1991 Ochsner that I bought new in '92. I have sort of hybridized it lately but am thinking about returning it to a roadie. Stock it came with all Shimano 105 6 speed components, down tube index/gravity shifters, Mavic MA2 wheels, Cinelli handle bars/quill stem. It is a wonderful riding bike. Now I have Rigida wheels with 9 speed cassette and it works fine with the stock crankset and shifters, set to gravity. I do have to manually spread the stays to mount and remove the rear wheel as it is 130mm and original is 126. I have not cold set the frame but am considering that. I have a couple of pictures as it is now. Post pic of yours when you can.

Sorry only one I have now. More later today
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Ochsner was an importer of many fine things from around the world. A very interesting person that was the importer of Campagnolo products into the USA among other things. The frames are well made, contracted from a builder, but are not very well known to the general public so they usually sell for a fair price. I have a Chrome Ochsner that I love.
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Ochsner was an importer of many fine things from around the world. A very interesting person that was the importer of Campagnolo products into the USA among other things. The frames are well made, contracted from a builder, but are not very well known to the general public so they usually sell for a fair price. I have a Chrome Ochsner that I love.
That is one sweet Ochsner! Just gorgeous. What year is that bike?I have never seen another Ochsner in real life, only pictures. I think, but am not sure, that Oschner was a rider for Switzerland. It seems to me that I saw that awhile ago when doing research on my bike. Also, again not sure,, that the frames were imported and the bikes built in Chicago. Seeing your bike really makes my think hard about redoing mine. My frame does not show what tubing it is made of.
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I am not sure about the racing information but Ochsner is an importer of things like fine chocolate and other gourmet items including wine and cutlery. At one time they were a huge supplier of Campagnolo small parts. I've never seen one of their bikes in person but I can't imagine they are anything but the best quality

OCHSNER USA

Othon Ochsner, importer and connoisseur of the finer things, dies at 83https://www.bicycleretailer.com/inte...3#.W_lxCIdKi00

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That is one sweet Ochsner! Just gorgeous. What year is that bike?I have never seen another Ochsner in real life, only pictures. I think, but am not sure, that Oschner was a rider for Switzerland. It seems to me that I saw that awhile ago when doing research on my bike. Also, again not sure,, that the frames were imported and the bikes built in Chicago. Seeing your bike really makes my think hard about redoing mine. My frame does not show what tubing it is made of.
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Thank you! My bike does not say what tubing either and I am guessing early 1980`s. The Chrome ones were limited and according to Orthan Ochsner himself, made in Italy, but he could not remember by who. My guess is Cinelli because it has Cinelli logo lugs, fork , as well as bottom bracket. Whoever it was did an outstanding job. Mine weighs in at 20.4 pounds as it sits in the pictures, so I assume it is Columbus SL.
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I picked these up from a guy on eBay who purchased them from an auction of Ochsner`s collection. Still new with tags. I can`t decide what one goes on the bike. I will let my rear end decide come spring.
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Bianchigirl and Steve Whitlatch, thank you for the info. The saddles are way cool! I bought mine from a LBS in Ocean City, MD. I believe the list price was about $900 but they had lowered the price by $100 because it was from the previous year. Also, the head tube had a dent, which is still there, so they offered me another $100 off to take it home with me. I have never regretted that decision. I still love to ride it.
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Well I bought it!!!!! All Shimano 600, campi seat post and downtube shifters. Technomic stem Sakae pedals, the hubs and B.B. are 600 as well. I’ve never heard of the wheels though, Super Champion gentleman 81? It’s in pretty good shape for what I assume is an 80s bike just a couple scrapes nothing major. I think I have a problem lol. I’ve bout 2 vintage road bikes in the last week
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ochsner

Congrats on your purchase. As you can tell from this thread you now have a very nice classic that is somewhat rare. Post some pix when you can, I would love to see them. After looking at this thread I am serious considering restoring mine but with more recent drive train.

How the Ochsner looks today.


20014 Orbea Avant MD40 I purchased new in 2016.
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Think I might need to go down to 27 inch rims or shorter crank arms... not a whole lot of clearance for my big foots lol
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I see in the above obit that is was Othons father that was the Swiss racer. Othon sounds like a guy it would have been nice to meet. How big are you and what size is the bike? Please do not forget to post pix. I would really like to see them. Thanks
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Think I might need to go down to 27 inch rims or shorter crank arms... not a whole lot of clearance for my big foots lol
27" rims are slightly bigger. Is the frame the correct size for you? Are you placing your foot on the pedal correctly? What kind of shoe are you wearing?

I sadly never stopped growing until I was too tall for even cheer and modern dance and therefore ride a 59 or 60. I am more of a masher than a spinner and consequently use 172.5 cranks. Several of my bikes therefore have a slight toe over lap but it is seldom a problem unles I trying to pedal through a tight turn at a super low speed. Check your foot placement and give it a chance as it is.
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I know the frames a little small. Just don’t want to admit it lol. 5’11 and top tube length is 55 ish. It’s very close to my peugeot geometry. In every aspect except the fork and maybe the head tube. Definitely the forks

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Trying to be as gentle as possible with the tear down. so far so good the bolts hanging the brakes are being difficult. I’m assuming wd40 is my best bet? I read somewhere that the B.B. might be Italian thread does anyone no if this is true? And is the the head set the same? DELbiker1 what size tires are on yours??
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What do you guys use to get the funky star nut off on the headset? Anyone ever try one of thos rubber strap wrenches they use for oil filters.
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Trying to be as gentle as possible with the tear down. so far so good the bolts hanging the brakes are being difficult. Iím assuming wd40 is my best bet? I read somewhere that the B.B. might be Italian thread does anyone no if this is true? And is the the head set the same? DELbiker1 what size tires are on yours??

Right now I have Serfas Seca 25mm tires on it. Not really by choice. I was traveling and had tire/tube issues. Stopped at an LBS in my home town and these were the tires closest to what I wanted. 25mm are the size I normally run . I can mount some 28s but can only ride them when it is cool to cold. If it is warm at all, when they heat and expand they do not clear the caliper brakes or the bridge on the seat stays.
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Right now I have Serfas Seca 25mm tires on it. Not really by choice. I was traveling and had tire/tube issues. Stopped at an LBS in my home town and these were the tires closest to what I wanted. 25mm are the size I normally run . I can mount some 28s but can only ride them when it is cool to cold. If it is warm at all, when they heat and expand they do not clear the caliper brakes or the bridge on the seat stays.
They just look large in the pic What are you running for wheels? Im trying to post pics but it keeps telling me I can only post 5 times in 24 hrs??? when I first tried I had only posted once in 24 lol.... ill figure it out. The age of the Ochsner is confusing, The campi seat post is a gen 1 record from what ive found I believe the dt shifters are the same... isn't the the shimano 600 stuff is newer though?
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Well I bought it!!!!! All Shimano 600, campi seat post and downtube shifters. Technomic stem Sakae pedals, the hubs and B.B. are 600 as well. Iíve never heard of the wheels though, Super Champion gentleman 81? Itís in pretty good shape for what I assume is an 80s bike just a couple scrapes nothing major. I think I have a problem lol. Iíve bout 2 vintage road bikes in the last week
VeloBase.com - Component: Super Champion Gentleman 81
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See my original reply for the wheels. Can't help you with the headset or the 600 components.
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They just look large in the pic What are you running for wheels? Im trying to post pics but it keeps telling me I can only post 5 times in 24 hrs??? when I first tried I had only posted once in 24 lol.... ill figure it out. The age of the Ochsner is confusing, The campi seat post is a gen 1 record from what ive found I believe the dt shifters are the same... isn't the the shimano 600 stuff is newer though?
You can post pics on a site such as photobucket and then attach a link here. I suspect the bike was Campy originally, then the 600 bits swapped later. I can't reconcile why there are still Campy shifters though. You can find the series number on the components or at least a date code which will help.

characteristics of the frame help nail down a date range also. Braze ons, chain keeper, pump pegs, fd braze on tab, etc. can all help ID.
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Found this in a crate full of bits and pieces.?


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Wow...I have no idea how I got those up.... seat is from the Peugeot, itís actually in fairly decent shape. Anyone know what that rd is?
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