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Old 12-18-18, 05:55 AM
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Mercier Formule 1 Frameset+

Hi - this bike came up for sale locally. Looks nice, but the guy didn't post a price, he's looking for offers. The guy knows that he's got something, it looks to be in pretty good shape but needs some work for sure, and is missing the rear derailleur.

It looks identical to this bike: Mercier Formule 1 1980?- speedbicycles.com

Seller states that the seat post moves, and is looking for serious offers. And it's in my size.

Anyway, looking for opinions on what a fair offer might be.








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Old 12-18-18, 07:42 AM
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There's one big difference between the two bicycles. The subject bicycle has a Mercier M35-20 tubing decal, which is Mercier's hi-tensile tubeset. The linked bicycle uses much higher grade Super Vitus 971. The non-embossed fork crown on the subject bicycle would seem to support the lower status and I've seen references on French forums confirming versions with the M35-20 tubeset.

The wheels on the subject bicycle may be replacements, as the hubs are definitely not 600EX, like the crankset, derailleurs, brakeset and headset. It definitely needs a cleaning and full overhaul. It's a nice example of an early aero bicycle but the condition and hi-tensile frame limits the value. Also this is not a good time of year to sell a bicycle in the Capital region, despite it being a fairly high priced market. I'd limit my offer to $200 CDN.
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Old 12-18-18, 09:33 AM
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Pink is such a classic color for Mercier racing bikes. That said, given that the frame is hi tensile steel, personally I wouldn't offer more than the parts are worth as a group. I just think you can do better than this bike with your time and money. Don't get me wrong. I like the classic hi tensile steel French bikes. This is just not one of them.
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Old 12-18-18, 11:21 PM
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French manufacturers issued quite a few of these aero framed bikes (Peugeot's Centennial Commemorative bike and Motobecane's "Profil 1 & 2", to name a couple), to catch the aero craze happening in the early to mid 80's
what was interesting was they designed them using mostly High Tensile Carbon steel tubing, usually tubing that they already had in their inventories,"squashed" to provide oval sections to minimize tube frontal areas.
I guess they were made more to be marketing tools for the bike companies, rather than something thoroughly tested and designed to be leading edge tech bikes for that time. Not sure how other aero bikes like these rode, but my younger brother's Motobecane Profil was a torture rack to ride. very very stiff vertically. You felt every little bump and piece of gravel on the road, but boy, did it look spectacular and really caught the eye of a lot of people back then. I suspect though, that these oval tubed bikes rode much better than the Motobecane Profil as the Profil frame tubes had a deeper section than most and had a sharp edge at the back of the tube, just like what you'd see on a propeller or a wing section. I think that shape made it much stiffer at the vertical and longitudinal axis.
I think that this bike is worth a little bit more than the Peugeot or Motobecane aero bikes (I think Merciers are not nearly as common as the two brands.) but still not big value, because of the non-exotic tubing material and middling to low model level components on it.
I think in its present condition, maybe 220 bucks max because there is some uniqueness to it, but just a little bit more if restored to mint. 300 max in a decent market.
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I'm at a lower figure than those above. I see rust on that brake caliper. Value of components are all about condition, people don't want parts with rust. And if you treat the rust (time), there will still be pitting. Undesirable. Cheap, crap steel seat post.


Personally I don't play the make an offer game. Seller needs a price. In the end, I would pass, as anymore, I just put my time into better projects. Time is precious.
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I'm at a lower figure than those above. I see rust on that brake caliper. Value of components are all about condition, people don't want parts with rust. And if you treat the rust (time), there will still be pitting. Undesirable. Cheap, crap steel seat post.


Personally I don't play the make an offer game. Seller needs a price. In the end, I would pass, as anymore, I just put my time into better projects. Time is precious.
See post 3 above. I valued it at whatever the parts are worth with a free frame thrown in. I'm with you on the value of this project.
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OK, I stand corrected. Two of us are on the low end. Only "valuable" part I see is the crankset. Brake calipers don't bring much, particularly with rust. Levers are OK. Headset is cool, but looks kind of distressed so I would be cautious on that one.

Until you get a bike apart, you really don't know for sure whether there are going to be surprises. So I tend to go low, sometimes I barely breakeven, sometimes its a score. And sometimes I miss out which I am OK with as there is always another bike deal out there. I've gotten enough negative surprises over the years I no longer ass-u-me stuff is in good working condition.
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He's put it up for $120 now, I agree on hating the make an offer bit. I'll often send lowballs to people, mostly trying to get them to stop doing it.

Thanks for pointing out the tubing decal - I hadn't noticed it. I'm probably not going to pursue, as I am really looking for a better frame than my Bianchi, not another hi-ten frame. I find the aero design slightly interesting, but certainly not something I'm really searching out.

Thanks everyone for your help.
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Old 12-21-18, 07:11 AM
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$120? I'd buy that. And if its not your thing put it up on ebay. Double your money.
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Old 12-22-18, 08:12 AM
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Pretty. The hard part is convincing the seller he has the lowend sibling. I like both of them but that highend machine with the blue rims is dreamy!
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ottawa mercier it's not the performance model

the guy has it for sale at 150 now
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Lower name, low tubeset, lots of cleanup, mid range parts. Not worth most peoples time unless you are looking for that model and color, and size. The time it takes to sell parts, and the hassle of shipping, plus if you cleanup.....all lead to negative.
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