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Old 01-01-19, 09:14 AM
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$200 for Campy V brakes? Is this reasonable?

I am thinking of changing the brakes on my Volpe and while CampI would be nice I don't want to break the bank either. Is this reasonable? $175 plus $30 shipping? Also why are people listing DP brakes as cantilever? Is this ignorance or is intentional to get views? https://www.ebay.com/itm/brakes-bike...o/202244476280

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The cantilever label is ignorance. See it a lot.

For me if I was going to spend a chunk of change on v brakes they would have to be Paul's, Bullseyes, or the grey anodized XTR v brakes from the 90s. Those all have interesting design features. Like the extra pivot on the XTRs, or the sliding pad post on the Pauls. These Veloce V's look pretty run of the mill, similar design as a new set of cheaper Shimano Deore V's.

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Old 01-01-19, 09:59 AM
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I have a set of the Paul's. CNC goodness.
I like these Campsgnolo pair.
i think out of production.
be the life of the ​party- purchase them.
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No experience with these brakes but the price IMO is for the collectibility. My guess is if you're looking for functionality, you could do just as well at half the price or less. On my cross bike, I have Avid Shorty Ultimates cantilever which are very nice, adjustable brakes.
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+1, much less. Get yourself down to a local co-op and see what great choices are available for just a few $$ in their parts bins. Don
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Did not know they made V-brakes! They are special, and it's to me a game-time decision as to whether $200 is worth it. Sure, there are tons of other V-brakes for a lot cheaper that are just as good etc--everything logic says to consider--but...they aren't Campagnolo, they don't have that Campagnolo luster or specialness about them. So we're back to logic leaning us to 'no' and the heart leaning us toward 'yes' and, well, I think those brakes look fantastic and think one would be hard-pressed to see another pair. They will certainly function well and you can use (shiny) Campagnolo brake pad/holder units on them.

Looks like there's also a "Make Offer" button, so there is a chance you could get them for less. That would make it more palatable price-wise. Overall, I like them and wouldn't think you're being foolish getting them for a lot of money.
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IMO, V-brakes are a subset of cantilever brakes. A cantilever is any brake where the pads are located between the pivot and cable attachment. In other words, they are Class II levers. Traditional cantilevers have the lever (beam) forming a right angle, or close to it. Then came low profile cantilevers where the angle in the lever (beam) was about 45 degrees. In V-brakes the lever (beam) is essentially straight.

Also, while the term V-brake is applied generically by cyclists, technically it should only be used to refer to Shimano brakes of this design, as it is trademarked nomenclature. So, unless Campagnolo paid a license fee to Shimano, technically these are not V-brakes.

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Hold out for real cantilevers. They'll come up. I had Record OR on one of my early cross bikes and they worked fine with Ergos. They did come out with a cross line a few years ago, wait for something like that.
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OK Now I have a different question. How long or tall are "V" type brakes anyway? Will they interfere with my rack?
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Actually V brakes when designed for have the pivot points a bit lower than Cantilevers.
Look for some Campagnolo cantilevers.
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Silly money, if you ask me. I would consider buying those iff (1) I was super psyched to have a perfectly-matched group and (2) I had really deep pockets. (Two conditions under which I've never labored, for sure).

For performance, I'd go with the Shimano BR M-600 vees, a full set of which I'd be happy to send you gratis since your'e my bud.

Edit: but looking at your pic, above, I'd say they probably would interfere with your rack. cf:

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Yes it looks like I would have to ditch that cute little useless rack to use V brakes.

But the Campi brakes are definitely off the list
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I wouldn't be surprised if those brakes were made by Tektro. Perhaps adding Campy pad holders, or some other benefits.

Are those out of production, meaning the asking price can be anything?

It looks like those may be shorter than normal (Mini-V), which would make them play nicer with your brake levers, but could wreck havoc with both your rack and fenders depending on exactly where the cable ends up.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
I have a set of the Paul's. CNC goodness.
I like these Campsgnolo pair.
i think out of production.
be the life of the ​party- purchase them.
you probably will do better than the stock market.
The Paul's are certainly good, I have the MiniMotos on Mrs. Road Fan's "More Roads" bike (not quite an All-Roads). Nice thing about them is short arms that suit road levers like Campagnolo Ergopower or Shimano some-kind-or-other. A lot of V brakes want MTB style levers for proper range of motion and leverage.

New Paul Neo-Retro are $121 per wheel in silver, Racer typically $150 each, MiniMoto $144 each. If Campy has designed these to be a xyxtem component with some other of their parts, there may be some advantage. If not, the question is are they as strong-acting and controllable as Moto-Lites? I personally like Neo-Retros better than Motolites with road levers, but wife's Breezer Liberty has cheap v-brakes with MTB levers, and that setup is better than either one. AND a lot cheaper.

If the Campy brakes have a good performance with your intended levers, I'd go for them. I think I saw NIB once for $175 per wheel, so this particular pair is a good price. Most reviews don't get past the "bling" rant, which is just bull, not a review.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
OK Now I have a different question. How long or tall are "V" type brakes anyway? Will they interfere with my rack?

Ohhh now I see it - you have that little front Pletscher rack! How do you like it?
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
...It looks like those may be shorter than normal (Mini-V), which would make them play nicer with your brake levers, but could wreck havoc with both your rack and fenders depending on exactly where the cable ends up.
I was scrolling down through the replies to see if anyone else would point this out.
If they are mini-v's they are more compatible with non-v levers, and which makes the "cantilever" description somewhat more appropriate imo.

Made in Aisia? Almost certainly. Should be (or was) an origin sticker on the box somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
OK Now I have a different question. How long or tall are "V" type brakes anyway?
It varies:

https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/

What are you planning for levers? I think you'd want to have a v-brake arm length 85mm or less to use conventional drop bar levers, longer than that you'd want long pull levers like Tektro RL520s. Generally speaking.

I've been through your rack issue - you can get v-brakes that put the cable above the rack bolt or below, then the brake length you choose determines what levers will work. Or the levers you want determines whether the cable goes under or over the rack bolt.

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I was going to spend big money for some slightly exotic brakes for this bike I would likely go for some nice post mounted center pulls or Pauls mini moto's.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
Ohhh now I see it - you have that little front Pletscher rack! How do you like it?
it is an interesting little thingie. I donít use it much but I sometimes strap my phone there when riding but thatís about it. I think I have another somewhere.
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
It varies:

https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/

What are you planning for levers? I think you'd want to have a v-brake arm length 85mm or less to use conventional drop bar levers, longer than that you'd want long pull levers like Tektro RL520s. Generally speaking.

I've been through your rack issue - you can get v-brakes that put the cable above the rack bolt or below, then the brake length you choose determines what levers will work. Or the levers you want determines whether the cable goes under or over the rack bolt.
i thought of that around 1 or 2 this morning for some reason. I was hoping to use the levers I have now, just a pair of early Ď90s Campi levers. I am beginning think this may not be something I want to pursue
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[QUOTE=T-Mar;20727844...

Also, while the term V-brake is applied generically by cyclists, technically it should only be used to refer to Shimano brakes of this design, as it is trademarked nomenclature. So, unless Campagnolo paid a license fee to Shimano, technically these are not V-brakes.[/QUOTE]

And we shouldn't cal those ubiquitous adjustable wrenches "crescent wrenches". I still do.

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My early eighties Bianchi Touring with cantilever brakes. I love them They stop well. They are easy to feel/pull. They are easy to adjust. Darn near free. Hard to beat all that, in my opinion...

A few thousand kilometers of use and KAPOW...


First season of use...


Love the levers...
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I see a mini V brake Campag does use TW manufacturers, it may br badged by a subcontractor , so you have a pay bump for a name..

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I would look for the Campy Cantis.

Made by Tektro and they work fine with Kool Stops.

I have them on my Weigle and on my BMC Monstercross.

i bought them at $50 per set.

Another option is a TRP CX8.4. Solid performance and an el=cheapo price.
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