Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
Reload this Page >

1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer in Sienna Brown

Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer in Sienna Brown

Old 01-04-19, 07:16 PM
  #1  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer in Sienna Brown

I BELIEVE I have a 1972 Schwinn Sports Tourer in "Sierra Brown" paint color.
(please do correct me if I am incorrect)

what's she worth?

Thank you all for your time and HNY!

Last edited by LadyGypsyRose; 01-05-19 at 02:22 PM.
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-04-19, 07:20 PM
  #2  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Also, should I leave the saddle as it is (it had a sticky gel seat topper that I peeled off of it and discovered the Brooks B.15 Saddle - or should I treat it with some Lexol and maybe black shoe polish??? Or, something else?
Most respectfully and thank you for your help and time.
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-04-19, 07:28 PM
  #3  
cb400bill
Inoxidable Moderator
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 18,820

Bikes: Fuji SL 2.1 Carbon, Cannondale Synapse Alloy, Trek 710 531 Steel

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2194 Post(s)
Liked 2,155 Times in 1,344 Posts
I suggest leaving the saddle as is. In my area that is about a $200 bike.
cb400bill is offline  
Old 01-04-19, 09:25 PM
  #4  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
^thank ya for your advice cb400bill
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-04-19, 09:38 PM
  #5  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
But, respectfully, please explain what you base your appraisal on?...I honestly thought it to be worth a bit more (I know, you mentioned in your "area"), so aside from your locale, any other solid info?...
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-04-19, 09:45 PM
  #6  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I know it's the internet and such- but I believe I have one in a bit less pristine (compared to this link), but still great shape;
(BTW, I have NOTHING to do with the link) - just using as a reference...Hope I'm not violating any rules....
The bike in the link is listed at just shy of $900...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/6323747...SABEgIJVfD_BwE
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-05-19, 06:58 AM
  #7  
wrk101
Thrifty Bill
 
wrk101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mountains of Western NC
Posts: 22,599

Bikes: 86 Katakura Silk, 87 Prologue X2, 88 Cimarron LE, 1975 Sekai 4000 Professional, 73 Paramount, plus more

Mentioned: 79 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 309 Times in 231 Posts
Listings are asking prices, which mean NOTHING. Let us know when it sells. That price is total, complete dreamland. Seller is looking for a clueless fish. Ten seconds on ebay and any potential buyer will see a dozen or so that sold for much, much less.

As far as appraisals, you really don't get appraisals here, you get opinions. As free opinions, they are not up to "appraisal" standard, each one here has an opinion. Some have bought and sold a lot of bikes, others not so much. Some live in red hot market where anything sells, others live in mediocre markets.

I bought one in pristine shape, paid $100 in the Charlotte market, and it sat for a couple of weeks. I thought it was a great deal, so I made the trip. I sold it for a nice profit on eBay.

At the $900 price point, you can buy a Chicago Paramount, which is a much more desirable bike.


As to my opinion and basis, I have bought and sold about 750 vintage bikes in the last 12 years. Local sales tend to run into a price ceiling, where there just aren't any buyers above that price, unless it is something super desirable (like a Chicago Paramount). Every city is different, prices in Vancouver, BC or Toronto can be double to triple where I live. As far as the Colorado market, I have bought close to 75 bikes in the Denver area on various vacations, its a great place to buy, lousy place to sell (cheaper than my market). I would rate Denver above mediocre, but definitely on the weak side.

$200 for a local, no hassle sale sounds about right to me. Could take a while. Double it for ebay, but then you will have to pack and ship at a low cost, pay all the fees, etc. And you need perfect feedback. And buyers win all disputes (let the games begin, "item not as described"). Takes a cast iron stomach to sell on ebay, and the realization that some sales will go bad. Sports Tourers on ebay have sold for $200 to $500, which agrees with what I sold mine for. The top prices go for more desirable colors (not brown) from top rated sellers. Sellers continue to ASK higher prices than that, hope springs eternal!

Last edited by wrk101; 01-05-19 at 07:21 AM.
wrk101 is offline  
Old 01-05-19, 07:18 AM
  #8  
nomadmax 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 1,712
Mentioned: 93 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Liked 963 Times in 496 Posts
Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Listings are asking prices, which mean NOTHING. Let us know when it SELLS.

As far as appraisals, you really don't get appraisals here, you get opinions.

I bought one in pristine shape, paid $100 in the Charlotte market, and it sat for a couple of weeks. I thought it was a great deal, so I made the trip. I sold it for a nice profit on eBay.

At the $900 price point, you can buy a Chicago Paramount, which is a much more desirable bike.
Those two statements I highlighted in red are very real facts. What you have is a very clean example but unless you find that person who rode one just like it to their first flame's house, you're selling price is going to be in the 100.00 to 250.00 range. Here's why; as mentioned, for 900.00 someone can buy a better vintage model i.e. a Paramount or a Superior. Or they can buy a whole lot of modern road bike, for even less and it won't be a lead pipe. I'm not a Schwinn hater, as a matter of fact I have a couple that I love dearly, but the "lightweights" just aren't worth what a lot people think they are.



Last edited by nomadmax; 01-05-19 at 08:00 AM.
nomadmax is offline  
Old 01-05-19, 02:05 PM
  #9  
LadyGypsyRose
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 19

Bikes: Custom built Bianchi M.U.S.S. SS, Merlin Ti Road Bike, Merlin Fat Ti XL MTB, Vintage '90's Specialized Sirrus, Specialized Langster Pro Fixie custom built

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
^Thank you for the more thorough responses. Much appreciated.
LadyGypsyRose is offline  
Old 01-05-19, 02:59 PM
  #10  
nomadmax 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 1,712
Mentioned: 93 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 763 Post(s)
Liked 963 Times in 496 Posts
Originally Posted by LadyGypsyRose View Post
^Thank you for the more thorough responses. Much appreciated.


Here's to hoping it fits you so you can occasionally ride around on something that's unique these days. As to the saddle, I'd use some Doc Baileys leather dye/treatment on it. I've had good luck with it.
nomadmax is offline  
Old 01-05-19, 03:13 PM
  #11  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 17,823

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4850 Post(s)
Liked 1,297 Times in 867 Posts
$900 is nuts for that bike. There is a lot of dead inventory on eBay and CL. Hope is cheap.

Last edited by bikemig; 01-05-19 at 03:43 PM.
bikemig is offline  
Old 01-20-19, 08:56 PM
  #12  
Kent T
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 245

Bikes: 2002 Trek 800 Singletrack, 1982 Bridgestone Spica

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 37 Times in 29 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
$900 is nuts for that bike. There is a lot of dead inventory on eBay and CL. Hope is cheap.
Agreed. This is a classic Schwinn, the best of the non Paramount breed in 1972. It is classic and vintage, a bit too heavy for many. I came close to buying one in 1973, smallest men's frame was too big for 9 year old me. It was two sizes too large. Considered a Paramount which was same. Neither could be had locally even for full list price, end of the year. Wound up with a Raleigh International in the smallest size, and not far from a Paramount, and for me a leftover new 1971 model was $190 from the dealer close to my late Grandmother's house. I would say this is a $300 bike realistically, priced to sell. Vintage Schwinns from Chicago do have a following, $400 may be possible and still sell. If my old 3 speed Raleigh Sport hadn't been outgrown a good deal. (a Junior model), I could have waited for, and ordered up a LeTour next year. I used that used Raleigh trade in for almost 3 years. A good reliable bike. Sorry to be pedantic, some history. When I outgrew the International, which was in 1978, I did get a Schwinn and had several others.

Last edited by Kent T; 01-20-19 at 09:03 PM.
Kent T is offline  
Old 01-22-19, 09:01 PM
  #13  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,614

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 91 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 842 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 31 Posts
Lots of overpriced Schwinns here in the east side of Detroit. The heavyweighht Schwinns like Panther and Sting Rays can top $400 or more, but few Schwinn road bikes other than the Pelotona and Aparmounts would top $400.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 01-23-19, 08:09 AM
  #14  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,313

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 142 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1935 Post(s)
Liked 712 Times in 448 Posts
No pics of the Schwinn in question? The bike in the link looks like someone tore it down and completely overhauled it, but I still wouldn't pay $500 for it let alone $900
__________________
Bianchis '90 Proto, '90 Campione del Fausto Giamondi Specialisma Italiano Mundo, '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '86 Volpe, '97 Ti Megatube, '93 Reparto Corse SBX

Others but still loved; '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape SLX Bertoni "Speckled Trout"

Last edited by Bianchigirll; 01-23-19 at 08:13 AM.
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 01-23-19, 02:03 PM
  #15  
brandonk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 108

Bikes: 84 John Howard, 85 Raleigh Kodiak, 84 Ross Mt whitney, 1950's condor, 82 Allez

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I sold this one after a couple months on CL for $350 back in 2011 when the market was better. It was an attic find with all original parts, low miliage and no rust.
brandonk is offline  
Old 01-23-19, 02:56 PM
  #16  
TenGrainBread 
Senior Member
 
TenGrainBread's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,589

Bikes: Cherubim, Alps, a few Schwinns

Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1070 Post(s)
Liked 389 Times in 250 Posts
I just bought a blue Sports Tourer ('73 or so) in very good but used shape for $250 plus shipping online, which I considered to be a good deal. If you have someone who knows the bike (few locally, many if you list on ebay), $450 is probably the top of the range of prices that would get a buyer without sitting on it for a year.

The Sports Tourers are an odd duck because they were only made for a period of about 5 or 6 years and are interesting bikes. So for someone interested in Schwinn, it's a very attractive and not very common bike. But most vintage enthusiasts who are interested in 70s road bikes are interested in lightweight high-end race bikes, which this is not. It's straight gauge chromoly with some cool but heavy parts.

Last edited by TenGrainBread; 01-23-19 at 03:01 PM.
TenGrainBread is offline  
Old 01-24-19, 09:22 PM
  #17  
Kent T
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 245

Bikes: 2002 Trek 800 Singletrack, 1982 Bridgestone Spica

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 57 Post(s)
Liked 37 Times in 29 Posts
Indeed. The Schwinn Sports Tourer is an interesting bike. A 5-6 year production run. Chromoly frame. Biggest problem this bike had was too poorly described in the catalogues then, looked too Varsity/Continental outwardly. And Schwinn didn't really spend enough time and description for the dealers to explain to prospective buyers why this classic was really worth the extra cost. The most obvious things to a buyer would really be alloy rims, and a cotterless alloy crankset. The bike is nice, the best thing available in that time frame from Schwinn not to be a Paramount. Built in that part of the factory, and not mass production capable (which may have been why Schwinn didn't try to explain in more detail the differences). Hand brazed. The 1973 right before the bike boom was when Schwinn needed to modernize, and produce lugged steel frames in this price class in enough number, and well enough. The Sports Tourer/Super Sports were the misunderstood link between the flash welded Varsinental and a Paramount. The Sports Tourer is very underrated, well made, and still a nice bike today. Pardon for the long asides and history, but trying to give you some backstory on this bike.
Kent T is offline  
Old 01-29-19, 07:11 AM
  #18  
John E
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 20,232

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 921 Post(s)
Liked 298 Times in 224 Posts
Looks like what the Super Sport should have been, but wasn't.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FluffNStuff
Classic & Vintage
5
12-28-20 04:09 PM
beaverstuff
Classic & Vintage
5
06-19-17 02:23 PM
jerky1280
Classic & Vintage
7
11-29-10 05:26 PM
jerky1280
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
0
11-29-10 11:18 AM
fressshhh
Classic & Vintage
2
02-14-10 10:51 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.