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Old 01-08-19, 12:55 AM
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Ex-bike shop owner asking for help

Hi all
Through a series of coincidences and some research, I met a bikeshop owner whose wife died in 2018 and he now wants to sell some of his personal bikes. He's a complete technophobe and had pics printed to send to me. The 4 in the pic areas follows:
Look KG56 54cm
Peugeot 1000 carbon 54cm
Vitus carbon maybe a 56cm
Racingbik carbon monocoque, made in the USA.

The blue ink is the marker pen used for notes on the back that hadn't dried when he put them in the post. There are a couple of others, one that I put in the for sale thread but deleted as I don't have a price, but it still seem to be there, a KG196.

I don't have any other details but any clues you can give me to help the chap out would be great.
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Old 01-08-19, 12:55 PM
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I have two of those bikes, The Vitus Carbone and the Peugeot 1000 (Actually a re-branded ALAN Carbonio) Unfortunately, bonded frame, CF bikes from this vintage are very hard to price as there is so much varied opinions out there about their desirability/market value. Much much more varied than what you see with steel and aluminum framed bikes. Thus, they pretty much are "niche" bikes for niche bike collectors. So market for these are quite small compared to metal C&V bikes and the only way to get most money for them is to tind a specific buyer that is really looking for the specific bikes. Auction site might not work out that well as there seems to be a persistent general confusion in such about how much these bikes are really worth. Actually, the quickest way to get most money for these is to part them out, especially if the component groups on them are very desirable brands and models. I wish I could help you and your friend better with actual pricing for such bikes, but the truth is, presently the market does not have anything established at this point and I suspect, tor the foreseeable future.
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Old 01-09-19, 09:17 AM
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Parts look like 105 or similar. If so, the parts add nothing to the value and just increase the cost of shipping. If the goal is to maximize value, then step 1 is dismantle and clean. If the goal is minimal work, then put them up on the local Craigslist or whatever is used in France at a low price. Fork on the Vitus does not look original. Lugged and glued carbon value is not that high. Really as a bike shop owner, I would have expected better and certainly higher end components.

OK, I see you are in France, I really know nothing about that market.


These bikes really stretch the definition of "bike shop owner's ... personal bikes". Left over incomplete projects and trade ins from the back room, sure.

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This is a tough one the French vintage bike market kinda sucks right now and as said 80;s bonded carbon with mixed Shimano components is a pretty hard sell in most markets great stuff but not really collectiable at this time and not really stuff most would want to ride. So really only 300-400 ueros locall each on these and don't expect them to move quick.
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Old 01-10-19, 05:49 PM
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Everything looks slightly mismatched, needing tuning, etc. Two of the bikes are missing rear derailleurs. Mismatched wheels. Anodized wheels showing brake track wear.

And, as mentioned above, most of the bikes appear to have been rebuilt at some point with mid-range components.

If the seller is a "mechanic", and has time and patience, he is probably better off stripping the bikes, and selling them off piece by piece on E-Bay (including international shipping to the USA). It may take some patience.

Or, if he wishes, pick out a couple to do a full restoration to "new" condition on.

What are the shifters on the LOOK?
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Old 01-10-19, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Really as a bike shop owner, I would have expected better and certainly higher end components.
I would too, but there are quite a few bikes that get essentially abandoned at shops. Or perhaps the shop bought and sold used bikes or took trade-ins.

Also, these bikes were probably stripped to a bare frame and reassembled sometime in the mid 90's, using the parts available at the time, and probably downgrading some to use cherry parts on other bikes.
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I would agree these don't look like a shop owners main bikes they look like back of the shop trade in or project bikes that the shop never got around to doing anything with. Probably the best way best way to sell these would be to build up one or two complete fairly nice bikes out of the four and sell off the rest of the parts seperately.
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Old 01-13-19, 01:56 PM
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The partial Peugeot (Alan?) carbon I would sell as a frame set. Much easier to ship. Maybe the same for the Racingbik. It is near complete but not top tier components.
The Look I would think has the widest audience. Followed by the other Peugeot Vitus carbon, but the white fork is odd.
I would lose the splash handlebar tape in any event. Totally forgot the unique bars on the Vitus Peugeot... go normal.
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Hello Milo,
I would be grateful if you would get in touch when you have a price for the KG196.
Thanks.
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Hello Milo, did you find out about the KG196? Regards
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