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Old 01-10-19, 04:25 PM
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Has anyone heard of this brand?

I have a 20" boys muscle bike from possibly the 70's and it has a headbadge (sticker) that says Peerless. There is also a sticker on the seattube that says the same thing. I have tried uploading photos and it won't let me. I was hoping once someone responded to me, I might be able to add some photos. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 01-10-19, 04:31 PM
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When you have 10 post you can then post pictures. For a boys muscle bike I would then ask your question in the BMX section. Roger
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Peerless was a brand of the D.P. Harris Hardware & Mfg. Co. Ltd. The company goes back to 1895 with Peerless bicycles dating back to 1913. However Harris was most famous for another of their brands, Rollfast. The subject frame's characteristics suggest that this one was contract manufactured by H.P. Snyder. Photo assist....
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To expand on T-Mar's comments; H.P. Snyder worked out a partnership with D.P. Harris shortly after WWI where Harris would stop making bikes and Snyder would buy all their hardware (cranks, stems, etc.) from them. Thereafter Snyder/Harris started buying up struggling bike companies, in a similar way that Raleigh did in England. Rollfast was the most famous of these by far. Others were Peerless, Great Western, Pioneer, Overland, etc. Thus your frame is basically a Rollfast with a different head badge.

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So I have tried to find rollfast bikes like this to determine age, and/or value and cannot find a single one with Peerless markings. I'm going to restore the bicycle and need to know how much I should price it at though .
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So I have tried to find rollfast bikes like this to determine age, and/or value and cannot find a single one with Peerless markings. I'm going to restore the bicycle and need to know how much I should price it at though .
When you say it's a 20" bike, do you mean the frame size or the rim/tire size?
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When you say it's a 20" bike, do you mean the frame size or the rim/tire size?
I mean the tire/rim size.
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Putting a value on it is problematic, and would move this thread to the Valuation sub-forum. What I can tell you is that there are very few small kid's bikes like these that would give you any monetary return on doing a full restoration. The Schwinn Stingray/Krate/Lemon Peeler/Pea Picker family is one, and there are BMX bikes that bring big money. Unfortunately "rare" doesn't always translate to "valuable".
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Interesting frame for its construction. Some areas are very "value" engineered - the flattening of the stays at the dropouts and the kickstand plate.
Others are interesting, the U seat stay loop, the treble top tubes where two extend back to meet the seat stay loop. Above average, but not a high value item, Schwinn gets the big attention.
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There's no BMA-6 sticker, so it should be pre-1971. Schwinn started the h-riser craze with the Stingray in mid-1963. Competitors swiftly followed in 1964, so we've already got a fairly narrow range of 1964-1970. If the OP has a complete bicycle we may may be able to get clues from other components, especially if it's 3 or 5 speed. If all he has is the frame, the costs of obtaining other proprietary parts, such as the chainguard and crankset, would likely make restoration financially impractical.
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So I have tried to find rollfast bikes like this to determine age, and/or value and cannot find a single one with Peerless markings. I'm going to restore the bicycle and need to know how much I should price it at though .
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Looks like the bottom bracket may have been repaired. Common among those 20"s with everyone getting into bmx and Evil Knevil jumps. Also see damage to rear fender mount. Value would probably be in the nastalgia of original owner.
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I have tried uploading photos and it won't let me.
You can post self hosted pics but not pic links until you hit 10 posts.
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You can post self hosted pics but not pic links until you hit 10 posts.
how do I post self hosted pics? I thought that's what I was trying to do originally.
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On a desktop, use the attachment feature.
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