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Old 01-22-19, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
WOW I spent some time looking over the vintage Trek site and it is ever detailed and confusing! was each and every frame handwritten into a log? are the logs/charts actually scanned in anywhere?
@GrainBrain do have a link to that pic? Do you know where is was taken?
Just found it doing a quick Google search, I referenced the source when I first posted the pic. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tandemracer/58859330
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There are some pics out there of her on a dark red Trek.
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1983 Trek 170 7-11 Team Bbke

Thanks for the info JohnDThompson. There sure are a lot of doubters. Here are some more pictures but I was really was hoping for more


information on its value...
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It's hard to be certain from just the single photo provided, but it appears to be consistent with early model 170 frames, including the team frames. These did not use either the socketed seat lug or the Tange "Trident" fork crown found on later frames. The picture does seem to show features consistent with an early 170 frame, including Tange "bikini" lugs and a re-worked Ishiwata SCM fork crown, neither of which were used on other Trek frames.

But more pictures would be very helpful.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
The discrepancies are irrelevant because the subject bicycle is reportedly from 1983 while I'm pretty sure the picture is from 1985. Marianne Berglund is wearing a jersey with Centurion sponsorship but still riding her 1984 Raleigh. Berglund rode for Levi's-Raleigh during 1983-1984 but switched to Centurion-Texas Metros early in 1985, after Levi's-Raleigh cut sponsorship followng the 1984 L.A. Olympics.

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Originally Posted by seypat
How does the different versions of 170 affect the value? Would that make the early versions like this more valuable? Less? Veddy interesting!
I'd personally pay more for a team bike such as this.
However, I'm actually disappointed that the early 170's didn't use the trident fork crown or the cleaner looking (IMHO) seat lug cluster.

Either way, it's a unique bike, with an interesting back story.
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Originally Posted by GrainBrain
Courtesy of David Hunter's flickr account.
edit: From 1985, so probably not the bike OP has posted. Sorry got excited
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tandemracer/58859330
Wow, that pic is a blast from the past. I have lots of photos from my Kodak Instamatic 100 of the ladies when they visited Boise for the Women's Challenge. I was part of a neutral support crew and was invited to the after party before everyone went their separate ways. Rebecca Twigg was my dream girl.
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Originally Posted by Espo3909


I learned something on this one. What early 170's look like. Great thread!
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Originally Posted by Espo3909



If you would have posted that picture first there wouldn't be any questions. It has the lug/shell and the serial number.

Let me ask you a question. What is the model number/bike in this picture? You should be able to tell from one photo, right?


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Originally Posted by seypat
If you would have posted that picture first there wouldn't be any questions. It has the shell and the serial number.

Let me ask you a question. What is the model number and bike in this picture? You should be able to tell from one photo, right?

Early 938? Did I win? Where's my pony?
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Originally Posted by Espo3909
Thanks for the info JohnDThompson. There sure are a lot of doubters. Here are some more pictures but I was really was hoping for more


information on its value...
Definitely an early 170 frame. No other Trek used those lugs or fork crown.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy
I did some 'internet research' on Ms. Olavarri, wow, some sad history there.

Every pic I was able to find shows her on a Trek, with some differences from the bike shown in the first pic.

Also said she didn't race after 1984?....

Olavarri competed very early in 1985. She announced her retirement after competing in the Beatrice Bicycle Classic stage race, which ended March 31. However, I've also read that she qualified for and competed in the 1985 World Track Championships.


I've got a few pictures of her. They're also always on red Treks. She would have been with 7-Eleven for several years as of the start of 1985, so there wouldn't be any reason for her to be anything but a Trek. The bicycle in the race picture does appear to be labeled Schwinn and the rider looks heavier than the pictures I've seen of Olavarri
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Originally Posted by nesteel
Early 938? Did I win? Where's my pony?
Nooooooot! This is "could be a Masi Gran Criterium" mode for the Breaking Away thread. Fill in the Trek stays, a little chrome paint for the fork crown, some new decals, a few other things and boom, Masi. Heck, it looks like the OP's bike. Maybe it is a team bike as well. I got the discrepancies covered. The previous owner had the eyelets/cable guides added in an update/modernization. I think, he could have told me that. No way of knowing the truth without the serial number pic. Those dollar signs are flooding my mind now. Ka ching!

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Here is the way the original owner purchased the bike. Those dollar bills are flying away. He changed out the saddle/brakes/tires and removed the decals. Kept the original parts, though. Still iffy. It could be 2 or 3 different models. And no, that is not the fork Trek had problems with.





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Turns out it is an 82 412. Maybe the best value in the lineup. The truth will set you free.

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Cool thread, thanks for the pics of the 1983 team 170! Seems like an unknown value on this, even with repaint********** I would not sell it for less than 2k on ebay or 1500 sale on this forum if were mine and if a 24in would not sell ever!
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Originally Posted by dailycommute
Cool thread, thanks for the pics of the 1983 team 170! Seems like an unknown value on this, even with repaint********** I would not sell it for less than 2k on ebay or 1500 sale on this forum if were mine and if a 24in would not sell ever!
+1, hard to put a value on it. The repaint hurts the value for the collector, but makes it a rider. For the person not interested in the history, it is a 753 170 with a new paint job/decals. Finish it out and take it for a spin. Tough call. I would probably not sell it at this time. The value will go up as time goes on and the story of the different versions of 1983 170s gets out.
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Off on a tangent!

[QUOTE=seypat;20760205]If you would have posted that picture first there wouldn't be any questions. It has the lug/shell and the serial number.

Let me ask you a question. What is the model number/bike in this picture? You should be able to tell from one photo, right?

Seypat, let me ask YOU a question. What categorie do you think I posted under? It wasn’t “help me identify this frame” it was “What’s it worth, Appraisals”. Somehow you got off topic, then you chose to chastise me which I don’t appreciate. Just to review for you, this thread was never about identifying my bike- I clearly labeled it as a Trek 170 in the original post. I only asked for opinions on its value.
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You need to be patient with the process. The tinge of doubt brought a lot more info into this thread.
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Originally Posted by seypat
If you would have posted that picture first there wouldn't be any questions. It has the lug/shell and the serial number.

Let me ask you a question. What is the model number/bike in this picture? You should be able to tell from one photo, right?

Seypat, let me ask YOU a question. What categorie do you think I posted under? It wasn’t “help me identify this frame” it was “What’s it worth, Appraisals”. Somehow you got off topic, then you chose to chastise me which I don’t appreciate. Just to review for you, this thread was never about identifying my bike- I clearly labeled it as a Trek 170 in the original post. I only asked for opinions on its value.
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It can't have a value posted on it good or bad without being identified as a 170. It didn't look, or appear as a 170. Until you posted a pic of the serial number and John D verified it, nobody thought it was a 170. Believe it or not, myself and the rest of the people participating in the thread hounding you until you posted the serial number, helped your case and drove up the value of your bike. We also prevented you from having problems in the future with potential buyers. That was/is the purpose of the thread. Nobody is interested in a bike that appears to be a fake. That is the purpose of me posting my bike's pictures. Now your bike is real and the value of it just shot up. That has everything to do with the people participating on this thread, and nothing to do with you. If you had gone and posted this bike for sale on Ebay without the verification, there would have been a thread on every bike forum talking about the possible fake Trek 170 team bike on Ebay. We saved you the trouble and the questions from every potential buyer. The same questions that I/we were asking here. Now you can get the most out of your sale. Was that not your intention in the first place? I would have been one of those potential buyers. I don't care about the team history. All I care about is that it is a 170. A top level racing bike.(with a new paint job as well) Now it is verified. Now you can let the bidding begin. Or you can stew about it because nobody took your word from one pic. People are not going to take anyone's word when there could be a couple of Ks involved. That is the reality of the situation.

BTW, every person in the world that is interested in a vintage trek 170 will google this thread and read it in their search. I/we just earned you a lot more money with a lot less headaches. You don't seem to understand that. Realize we did you a big favor. The thread did what it was intended to do. Now go post it and make your money.

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A Serotta 7-11 team bike just sold on eBay for $1550 with original paint, an original team 7-11 winter training onesie, extra parts and a more direct link to the rider. There is value to those extras and the classic Huffy red/white paint scheme. Seems to me that is a good baseline for fair market value. There are pluses and minuses on each of the bikes depending on the buyer preference, but the $1550 is a good place to start and then adjust lower or higher for certain factors.
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I'm a little late to the party, but here are a couple of pics from my 83 170. It's interesting in that it
has the socket stays and reworked Ishawata fork crown.
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