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Windsor Carrera Sport - Sentimental value?

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Old 02-11-19, 08:23 PM
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Windsor Carrera Sport - Sentimental value?

I'm fairly certain this is the bike I bought when I was 15 in 1979 based on the Zefal mount and the placement of the city of san diego license. I believe I paid 120 and it came with sew-ups that I replaced with first (and last) wheels I ever built. I replaced it with a Raleigh Technicum in 1990 at which time I recall my brother selling it to someone but neither of us can remember where it went. Apparently it turned up in a thrift shop recently where current seller acquired it.

I'm quite certain it isn't worth anywhere close to what the seller seeks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windsor-Car...frcectupt=true
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Old 02-11-19, 09:33 PM
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This is an easy decision.

Buy it and build it up.
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This is an easy decision.

Buy it and build it up.
It would be tough to turn down if it were a cool old bike I used to own even if the price might be on the high side.
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Oh, that's pretty. Is the frame local to you?

Try an "offer" + local pickup.

I see some cracking around the right seatstay.



It's probably nothing, but could be a sign of movement where there isn't supposed to be movement.
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The Escondido location places it right near its original importer: Bicycle Parts Pacific of San Diego.

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This is an easy decision.

Buy it and build it up.
Hard to argue with that. So far seller doesn't like my offer but I'll try again. Thanks.
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Patience.

A cinch not to move at that number.

This is a one up from the bottom model constructed of hi-tensile tubeset.

Same machine also offered badged as Carabela.

My guess: top market value ~$90.

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Nice looking frame with fairly good tubing but just OK build quality even with sentimental value I would say $125-150 or so local pic up shipping or more would say pass. These aren't actaully as rare as people think with some patience you should be able to get a whole bike in fairly good shape if that is what you want.
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Define sentimental. Depending how sentimental an item is to me, Iíd gladly pay over market for it, particularly when itís the EXACT item and not just something similar.

So its overpriced. That really doesnít matter. Itís really how bad you want it. Some people spend that much in a month or two at Starbucks.
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I don't know about your current cash flow situation. My bike obsession is not based on market value but more a hobby with deeper meaning. I don't keep track of how much I put into my bikes. I have a 1976 Kabuki Diamond Formula that was top of the line back then, not much value today. I bought this bike new and remember the excitement of riding a racer in my 20's. I have period correct Super Record and Nuovo record on everything even the Titanium spindle pedals . The parts are worth way more than the build. Because this was my first serious bike back then it is at the top of my list in personal value . I ride it a lot and always get compliments. I have a nice bunch of bikes that are worth more $$$ but don't hold the same value to me. So go first with what you can afford and then with whatever personal value you will receive, IMHO Joe joesvintageroadbikes.wordpress

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If I sold it, I don't want it returned ... unless it's really cheap.

Twice, I have seen bikes I formerly sold returned to Craigslist with some of the text I used to sell it the first time. I always email the guy to touch base and ask what happened. It's usually, "I don't ride it enough."
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I don't know about your current cash flow situation. My bike obsession is not based on market value but more a hobby with deeper meaning. I don't keep track of how much I put into my bikes. I have a 1976 Kabuki Diamond Formula that was top of the line back then, not much value today. I bought this bike new and remember the excitement of riding a racer in my 20's. I have period correct Super Record and Nuovo record on everything even the Titanium spindle pedals . The parts are worth way more than the build. Because this was my first serious bike back then it is at the top of my list in personal value . I ride it a lot and always get compliments. I have a nice bunch of bikes that are worth more $$$ but don't hold the same value to me. So go first with what you can afford and then with whatever personal value you will receive, IMHO Joe joesvintageroadbikes.wordpress
Thanks for the advice. I weigh the cost and the need, though I only have n bikes so I'm still one short. Always room for a couple more hooks in the garage too....
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A couple of build tips on these early Carrera Sport frames.

If you get this one or another of this era there are a couple oddities with them to be aware of.

While the steerer is BSC ("English") its interior is not 22.2mm but rather .833" so you will need to find a stem of this diameter.

While steerer is BSC the bottom bracket shell is threaded Italian, 36mm X 24TPI. However the width is not the usual Italian 70 but rather 68mm. So when assembling a bottom bracket for the cycle one will require Italain dimension cups paired with a compatible spindle intended for a 68mm shell. The OEM chainset for this model at this time was a Sugino Maxy three bolt model with a fixed outer.



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