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1985 Fuji IV Frameset

Old 05-21-19, 01:45 AM
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1985 Fuji IV Frameset

Hello, wondering how much y'all think this might be worth. Listed at $165 w/ $35 shipping. Live in the D.C. Metro area and have been scouring FB Marketplace and Craigslist for a few weeks, but too many subpar models in 64cm as of late. Might be able to hold off for a few more weeks if this is a not so good deal. Thanks for the consideration!






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Not a great deal but certainly an OK one. The paint is in good shape which is a big plus and the chrome will clean up nicely. Are there any dings? The rust on the left chain stay (visible in 2 of the pics) has me a bit concerned.

One thing about tall bikes: there isn't much supply and there isn't much demand. I'd ask for a discount based on the rust issues and then buy the frame once you work out a price.

Do you have parts on hand? If not, velo orange sells very serviceable 126 mm wheels built around Sun CR 18 rims at a reasonable price.

Old mountain bikes are a great source for quality touring components (derailleurs and cranks) as well. If you can get one your size at a reasonable price with components you like, you can rob the bike for parts and build it up as an inexpensive lock up/beater bike.

I think $100-$150 or so for a quality steel frame is a pretty decent price and touring frames command a premium.

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Old 05-21-19, 07:49 AM
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Dia Compe 960 cantilevers were original. You'll be able to find a set.

I have a Sugino AT half-step triple on one bike. And another set up more MTB-ish on my wife's Trek 620.

I'm down in Alexandria if you need a hand with anything. I'd be glad to help. Phil
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Not a great deal but certainly an OK one. The paint is in good shape which is a big plus and the chrome will clean up nicely. Are there any dings? The rust on the left chain stay (visible in 2 of the pics) has me a bit concerned.

One thing about tall bikes: there isn't much supply and there isn't much demand. I'd ask for a discount based on the rust issues and then buy the frame once you work out a price.

Do you have parts on hand? If not, velo orange sells very serviceable 126 mm wheels built around Sun CR 18 rims at a reasonable price.

Old mountain bikes are a great source for quality touring components (derailleurs and cranks) as well. If you can get one your size at a reasonable price with components you like, you can rob the bike for parts and build it up as an inexpensive lock up/beater bike.

I think $100-$150 or so for a quality steel frame is a pretty decent price and touring frames command a premium.

Thank you for your insights. There doesn't seem to be any dings which is nice; but given that I want to spread the rear to 135mm I wonder what the long-term effects of the chain stay rust might be. Perhaps if I tried to clean/contain it some. I suppose the inside of the chain stay would be the best location to take a tad bit of paint off and seal it up if warranted. Might pull the trigger if i get it down then and nothing else comes along!
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
Dia Compe 960 cantilevers were original. You'll be able to find a set.

I have a Sugino AT half-step triple on one bike. And another set up more MTB-ish on my wife's Trek 620.

I'm down in Alexandria if you need a hand with anything. I'd be glad to help. Phil
Oh, hey! Thanks for reaching out then Phil. I'm out over here in Aldie. Names David. This one wouldn't be built w/ vintage components; but I am looking for cantilever solutions to adapt a 700c wheel. I think I took a screenshot of a tread regarding this. Forget if these were mentioned as being accommodating or not.
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Nice frame set OK price. But it won't really work for 135 spacing or 700c wheels. These were designed for fixed height relatively short dia-compe canti's so there is much or any room to adjust downward even with different brakes. You can get nice 27 touring wheels with 126 modern cassette rear hub to run modern gearing. I would suggest if you want to run 700's and modern gearing you look for a slightly newer late 80's early 90's steel frame designed for 700's and 130 spacing then you could just bolt any modern groupo you want without issues.
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Not very knowledgeable about road bikes, but doesn't Rivendell have some long-reach brakes or still too short?
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Nice frame set OK price. But it won't really work for 135 spacing or 700c wheels. These were designed for fixed height relatively short dia-compe canti's so there is much or any room to adjust downward even with different brakes. You can get nice 27 touring wheels with 126 modern cassette rear hub to run modern gearing. I would suggest if you want to run 700's and modern gearing you look for a slightly newer late 80's early 90's steel frame designed for 700's and 130 spacing then you could just bolt any modern groupo you want without issues.
Ah, okay, I see. It might be good to shift my priorities then! Thanks for the info
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I don't like the rust. Rust under paint too. I'd pass.
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$200 after shipping and a few hidden rust issues for a bare frame and fork. When you assess the rust and how to deal with it as well as the cost, you still have to find/purchase everything else needed to build it up. I think I would pass.
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If you are thinking of modern canti's I would suggest measuring the distance between the fork canti studs as those 80's tourers had a narrower spread between canti studs than todays bikes so new canti's may not work up front - ask me how I know (86 Schwinn Passage) you can still run vintage canti's up front and probably find some that will accommodate a 700c wheel but its a potential issue to deal with. I too would be wary of rust under paint. YMMV.
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