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2 Vintage Shoguns, What It Do Do!

Old 05-23-19, 01:15 AM
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2 Vintage Shoguns, What It Do Do!

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Not perfect, but still worth the ride




Red Sun Fury





I've recently come into the sweet, serendipitous ownership of a couple of road lusty samurai Shoguns. There armour is a bit rusty, but please tell me your feelings anyway. I'd be much obliged,

Blue Shogun
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Welcome to the forums and congratulations on breaking the secret code to posting pics on your first try.

The pics unfortunately don't do much to help help identify the bikes but both appear to entry level modes.

Not perfect but worth the ride? How far away were they?
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Honest appraisal to follow as this is an appraisal forum. Cover your screen.


Bottom end with condition issues. If you have the time/tools/aptitude/workshop and access to free parts, OK. When I get bikes like this (and I do) I take them straight to the co-op. I really can't touch a bike like one of these without losing money. There are better projects out there so I save my time for those. It takes the same amount of time, and the same $$ in parts, to rehab a bottom end bike as it does a mid level bike.

Of course, its not all about making or losing money. But on personal projects, I aim higher as better stuff is out there at low prices (I look a lot). My favorite bike I picked up for $15 at a garage sale. It had definite condition issues, but underneath was a top of the line model. I have upgraded it many times over the years. A good bike does not always mean an expensive bike price wise.

The co-op can use volunteer mechanics and donated parts and get these ready to ride. Since I don't have free volunteer mechanics (other than me) and free donated parts, it doesn't work out so well for me. I run out of time before I run out of projects, so I prioritize the good stuff first. I am an avid garage sale person, so I am always looking. I'll buy the bottom end stuff and drop it off at the co-op on the way home.


Hi ten steel frame, nutted rear axles, claw RD hanger, stamped drop outs, steel chain rings, steel handlebars, seat post, rims, hubs, etc.


Realize back in the day brands felt obliged to make low end bikes. For every good bike, brands made hundreds of really low end stuff. Nothing against Shogun, I bought two Shoguns last week and have owned many more.


Randy's mytenspeeds website is a great place to learn what makes a good vintage bikes. http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpeeds_1/

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Old 05-23-19, 09:18 AM
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What are your intentions? Ride? Flip? Part out? As stated, they are entry level and in poor condition. I see little value and they are at opposite ends of the size spectrum.
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The truth is a muth😁..

Ciao!
I did not ride far, for them at all. I have a service that they were donated to. I was so hoping that they were worth something, but hey: they ain't.
What kind of pics should I take to reveal there true nature.
Aaaaand, I really appreciate the in depth analyses. My only dream was that I had found a bike owned by one of the original admirals that bombed pearl harbor, but it would appear more chamber pot person who smoked wacky tobaccy.
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I appreciate all replays greatly, and thanks
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You already have revealed their true nature. No additional pictures needed.

If they were something better, the key pictures start with the drive side (the side with the chain). Then any tubing label, which is typically on the seat tube of the frame, but may be elsewhere. Close ups of handlebars, head badge, and pedals have little to no impact on value.

Fourth picture you took is the best, followed by the second picture.

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"What it Do Do!" ..............?

"I've recently come into the sweet, serendipitous ownership of a couple of road lusty samurai Shoguns. There armour is a bit rusty, but please tell me your feelings anyway. I'd be much obliged"

To the OP: please try doing a little spell checking. And, sorry but - those aren't Shogun Samurai model bikes. Samurai was a model name Shogun only put on their top of the line bikes.

The blue one is very small and the red one very large. So, those are not going to sell quickly. Neither of them look very high quality. "As-is" I'd say somewhere around $50 - $75 each tops.
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The truth is a muth😁..

Thanks for the input.
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As said above. If these bikes were given to me, I would take them to the local coop and take the donation, which would be $50 each. There are so many fine mid-level Japanese bikes available now, that my project bikes must be chosen very thoughtfully with regard to the best eventual outcome, the costs in parts and materials, and the time involved to bring each to its best end state. Good luck.
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