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Peugeot late 70s, early 80s?

Old 07-12-19, 08:21 AM
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Peugeot late 70s, early 80s?

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I would like your opinion on a Peugeot frame I found. What model is this? Searched the web and I have some possible IDs but nothing exact.
I'm thinking of buying it and try to restore it. Don't know what to do with that paint though...

The seller asks around 40-50 Euros and sent me the following pics:










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What about the wheels? Could be a nice frame.... what size is it?
Repainting might save it.
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Old 07-12-19, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
What about the wheels? Could be a nice frame.... what size is it?
Repainting might save it.
No wheels... and I don't know the size.
In order to avoid repainting it, was thinking to maybe chrome the chain and seat stays. The rest of the frame to clean the rust which is not that bad and see if the result is acceptable.
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Great buy at 50 Euro!

531 DB tubing

Verot 104bis chainset

Atom/Maillard 700 pedal

looks to be model PFN10E

1980 catalogue page -



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As far as model, hard to say. I tried my best years ago to ID a Pug and every time I thought I had it nailed down, I saw something that led me to another model and then that model didn't quite match up. So best you can do sometimes is figure out what "tier" it fits into.

It does have the Reynolds 531, so that is a plus. The paint is obviously a problem, but the first question I have is what do you want it for? You say restore it, but do you mean to rideable condition or to "near new" condition? I would say that some of the components might be beyond saving. The brake levers are quite chewed up. They are beyond polishing, in my opinion. That is, unless you just want it for a beater. With some elbow grease you can remove a lot of the rust and use touch-up paint and have an acceptable rider that looks good from 10 feet. Otherwise you are looking at a repaint and new decals. That gets expensive. Would the end result be worth it to you?

As it sits, it will likely need new bearings and grease, definitely new bar tape, brake and shifter cables, brake hoods and probably brake pads. The forks might clean up better than you expect. They don't look horrible. I've seen much worse.

The rear derailer is suspect, but may be salvageable. I do like the drilled chain rings. I'm a drillium fan. Saddle is roached.

The frame is not a lot of money, about $50.00 American, so not a huge risk if things don't work the way you expect. But again, it depends on what you want it for.

Finally but most importantly, check the seat post to make sure it isn't frozen. Same for the stem. Make sure they are both loose. The fluted seatposts in particular allow for a lot of moisture to work its way into the frame. Check for internal corrosion too.

Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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Great buy at 50 Euro!

531 DB tubing

Verot 104bis chainset

Atom/Maillard 700 pedal

looks to be model PFN10E

1980 catalogue page -



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this page lists Vitus tubing
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Originally Posted by TugaDude View Post
this page lists Vitus tubing
I also doubt that it's a PFN10E... besides the tubing, there are only 2 production colours: Emerald green and metallic blue
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Old 07-12-19, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TugaDude View Post
As far as model, hard to say. I tried my best years ago to ID a Pug and every time I thought I had it nailed down, I saw something that led me to another model and then that model didn't quite match up. So best you can do sometimes is figure out what "tier" it fits into.

It does have the Reynolds 531, so that is a plus. The paint is obviously a problem, but the first question I have is what do you want it for? You say restore it, but do you mean to rideable condition or to "near new" condition? I would say that some of the components might be beyond saving. The brake levers are quite chewed up. They are beyond polishing, in my opinion. That is, unless you just want it for a beater. With some elbow grease you can remove a lot of the rust and use touch-up paint and have an acceptable rider that looks good from 10 feet. Otherwise you are looking at a repaint and new decals. That gets expensive. Would the end result be worth it to you?

As it sits, it will likely need new bearings and grease, definitely new bar tape, brake and shifter cables, brake hoods and probably brake pads. The forks might clean up better than you expect. They don't look horrible. I've seen much worse.

The rear derailer is suspect, but may be salvageable. I do like the drilled chain rings. I'm a drillium fan. Saddle is roached.

The frame is not a lot of money, about $50.00 American, so not a huge risk if things don't work the way you expect. But again, it depends on what you want it for.

Finally but most importantly, check the seat post to make sure it isn't frozen. Same for the stem. Make sure they are both loose. The fluted seatposts in particular allow for a lot of moisture to work its way into the frame. Check for internal corrosion too.

Hope this helps.
Well... to be frank... was thinking of turning it into my first single speed bicycle. This will solve a lot of things like investing in brakes, shifters and derailleur, cables and so on.
And I want it to be in a rideable condition and to also look good. That is why I'm thinking of chroming the seat and chain stays and try to salvage the rest of the paint.
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Old 07-12-19, 09:13 AM
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Thanks for spelling out what you want to do with it. But please, at least consider using a front brake. If you use a coaster brake hub, then perhaps you can get by with that alone, but I still like a front brake just in case. If you choose fixed gear, I still would have a front brake.

So you can strip the frame of all of the shifting components at least. Chrome is great so long as it is affordable. Can you chrome the rear triangle without messing up all of the rest of the paint? I don't think that is possible.
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Old 07-12-19, 09:55 AM
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Thanks for pointing out me error!

1981 catalogue page for PKN10 -



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Old 07-12-19, 09:59 AM
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That looks like a winner!

Man, did they make pretty bikes, or what?
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Thanks for spelling out what you want to do with it. But please, at least consider using a front brake. If you use a coaster brake hub, then perhaps you can get by with that alone, but I still like a front brake just in case. If you choose fixed gear, I still would have a front brake.

So you can strip the frame of all of the shifting components at least. Chrome is great so long as it is affordable. Can you chrome the rear triangle without messing up all of the rest of the paint? I don't think that is possible.
Thank you for your advice. Was thinking of using a coaster brake hub and that's that. If it's not enough, I can always put a front break, no big deal.
Regarding the chromed stays... I'm not sure. I'll have to find out.

Also, @juvela, thank you for your investigation. Is there a chance it could be a PXN10E Super Competition? The PKN has chrome socks on the fork, while the PXN has full chrome.
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Old 07-12-19, 11:24 AM
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The PKN 10 was reynolds 531 double butted main tubes but this bike has a 531 forks as well. Perhaps this is a PKN 10 with an "upgraded" fork. In any case the color scheme likely puts this early 80s. This is a quality bike with a fine frame and parts but it obviously needs work.
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Old 07-12-19, 03:44 PM
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The OP is obviously in Europe and I think that the bike--reynolds double butted 531 main triangle and 531 fork--is a European model, the PS 10.

https://www.vintage-bicycles.de/renn...peugeot-ps-10/

I don't believe this model was ever imported into the states. It's a very fine bike at the asking price even with the obvious issues in terms of condition.
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Old 07-13-19, 12:26 PM
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Sorry but I shutter at the thought of making this bike a fixed gear bike. People should get the bike they want to ride and if you enjoy it than that's the important thing but I'm not a fan. Cleaning this one up and adding new consumables would do wonders for is value. Paint and decals would be nice but can get expensive. Rust removal and touch up paint is a cheaper way. Many paint shops will use the fork as a guide to make up a pretty good can of touch up. The components are nice and should clean up nicely. Truth is I have a soft spot for Peugeots and having worked on quite a few I wonder if the soft spot is in my head. The plethora of non-standard sizes and thread types can lead to premature aging and hair-loss. So keep that in mind but some of those difficulties will be encountered in the fixie remake so there's that.
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