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Old 09-09-19, 05:32 PM
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Colnago Master Piu Neo-Retro

Just finished restoring my Colnago Master Piu. I am so happy! It rides like a dream! This is my number 2 restoration and your comments are very welcome. Even if you think it is a shame to fit a modern groupset with brifters on a vintage frame . I tried to stay in line with the era (Campy Record groupset, Italian saddle and Mavic wheels). If you want an idea of the "before" you can see pictures here (Colnago Master Piu Decor - need help)

I am not planing to sell it soon (so fun to ride!) but your estimate of the value would be appreciated. Just to know what I have in hands (hoping it worth more than my investment!!). Thanks











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Old 09-09-19, 06:03 PM
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Here at Bikeforums you have those that like the vintage frame with parts and also vintage frames with modern parts. I dont see anyone not liking your build.

I myself think its a beautiful bike and the pictures are great. Including Closeups, various angles and drive side pic is a huge plus for you.
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Old 09-09-19, 06:13 PM
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Here at Bikeforums you have those that like the vintage frame with parts and also vintage frames with modern parts. I dont see anyone not liking your build.

I myself think its a beautiful bike and the pictures are great. Including Closeups, various angles and drive side pic is a huge plus for you.
Just joking. I personally like both approches. I just found modern components faster than vintage ones.

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Old 09-09-19, 08:54 PM
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Gorgeous Colnago with the modern group parts. Have really not seen one completed in the 11 speed, and the choice of the traditional style UT crank set was excellent vs. the more modern 11 speed.

The stem looks to be the Cinelli. And never get tired of the Skeleton Brakes.

Couple of questions if I may. What handle bar did you go with?

Again excellent work and smart choices for the modern group parts.

As to value, the vintage market was soft a while ago, but that seems to have cleared the market, and there's not a lot of really choice bikes or frame-sets at the moment.

I'll go replacement cost. A great Colnago Piu frame-set is going for $1400-$2000. A new Master is pushing $3K. Including all parts and wheels, an easy $4000.

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Old 09-10-19, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninetimes View Post
The stem looks to be the Cinelli. And never get tired of the Skeleton Brakes.

Couple of questions if I may. What handle bar did you go with? The 11 speed rear derailleur looks to be a short cage? Is this correct?
Thanks for you reply. The stem is a 3TTT Record 84. The logo was so bad so I decided to make it completle disappear (took pictures during the process) because the stem needed a good polishing. The handlebar is a 3TTT Competizione Gimondi. Both the stem and the handlebar were on the bike when I bought it. Probably original, at least period correct.
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I was about to say, "I don't know about everybody else, but..." but seems like others feel the same way, so skip that.

Looks great to me, and like it should be fun to ride. Not exactly a rare and unique frame, so it's not like you've turned it into a travesty. Building up a sweet frame, into a fun ride, without "drewing" ? Now show it off in the streets, go ride it.


I really have no sense of price on this. Whatever someone decides. I am sceptical of the soft C&V market being over, but to some degree agree (weird,right) that this bike might buck the trend for the right buyer. Your photos really do your build credit, and as a package you should realize top dollar for it, whatever that actually turns out to be. The kind of bike someone could buy, to do the "steel is real" thing, without needing to know anything more about it. Definitely qualifies as "bike porn".
Nice job.

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Old 09-10-19, 06:31 AM
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Beauty. That is exactly how I'd put together that bike.

Just one quick thing: are the bars wrapped backwards (at least the rhs)?

As for price, it's so market-dependent. Often people don't want to part with so much money on an "old" bike. If you were to add up the cost of all the parts, then subtract 20%, you might be close to the market value.

You should never sell that, and enjoy it as long as possible. It's gorgeous.
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Old 09-10-19, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle View Post
Just one quick thing: are the bars wrapped backwards (at least the rhs)?
Yes, both sides wrapped backward. I always do it like this. With hands on the tops when climbing, I tend to turn my hands backward when puling on the handlebar. By wrapping backward, I am not loosening the tape.

Thanks all for the good comments. I am not planning to sell this bike soon...
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It is a beautiful bike (I am of course biased, look at my stable below). The addition of brifters and other modern components help make a great bike even better.

I did the same with my original 1989 Bottecchia and I am very glad that I did.

Thanks for posting and enjoy the ride.
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Beautiful build. All black works very well on these frames. I took my 96' ML in AD4 one step farther and adapted to an ahead stem with a black King headset.

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Sorry, I can't help with the value. But I LOVE what you've done with your bike. I want one!!!
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Beautiful build. All black works very well on these frames. I took my 96' ML in AD4 one step farther and adapted to an ahead stem with a black King headset.
Do you see a difference in the ride? I ask because I flirted with the same idea but finally decided to keep a vintage touch with the handlebar/stem/seatpost. My ride sis super fine but I am wondering if it would improve with a more rigid cockpit.
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Do you see a difference in the ride? I ask because I flirted with the same idea but finally decided to keep a vintage touch with the handlebar/stem/seatpost. My ride sis super fine but I am wondering if it would improve with a more rigid cockpit.
When I bought it, I didnt ride it much with the original Syncros stem - it was much too long for me. Had it been right, I would have kept it. I'm not sure this is much stiffer than a good quill stem, but they're hard to find, and I already had the adapter, and extra stem/bars lying around. No one who hasnt ridden one of these would believe me, but they seem to know what you want them to do before you do. It's not twitchy at all, but I find it'll just dive into a corner and come out straight where I want it without my even thinking about it. Of course, I feel the same way about my Pinarellos. That Italian mystique...
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When I bought it, I didnt ride it much with the original Syncros stem - it was much too long for me. Had it been right, I would have kept it. I'm not sure this is much stiffer than a good quill stem, but they're hard to find, and I already had the adapter, and extra stem/bars lying around. No one who hasnt ridden one of these would believe me, but they seem to know what you want them to do before you do. It's not twitchy at all, but I find it'll just dive into a corner and come out straight where I want it without my even thinking about it. Of course, I feel the same way about my Pinarellos. That Italian mystique...
Pinarellos... I have a Treviso circa 85 with C Record in my garage, waiting for me to restore it. Unfortunatly, itís a little tall for me...
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Originally Posted by fraba View Post
Do you see a difference in the ride? I ask because I flirted with the same idea but finally decided to keep a vintage touch with the handlebar/stem/seatpost. My ride sis super fine but I am wondering if it would improve with a more rigid cockpit.
I felt an immediate difference when i put an adapter and a modern stem/bar combo on my old DeRosa. It felt like a new school hot rod


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