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Value of 1970s Schwinn Paramount [or?]

Old 01-01-20, 05:56 PM
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Value of 1970s Schwinn Paramount [or?]

Hi, I'm trying to get an idea what my old 70's Schwinn Paramount frame might be worth. Exact year I don't' know. It's an almost complete bike but a Frankenstein component-wise. It's been repainted twice, no decals. Currently a two-tone British Racing Green (head tube is darker green). Silca pump matches head tube, painted and canti braze-ons added by Chris Kelly. I plan to offer it as a frameset only.

Caveat - the little I've researched, the serial number doesn't match online info related to Paramounts. What else could it be? KPD1650K

Does anyone know how I can include photos? I keep getting an error message - "no url's till you've done 10 posts", but as you see there are no url's in this post...? And the Help is no help!
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Old 01-01-20, 05:59 PM
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here's a n album of pics:
photos.app.goo.gl/vC8byzasN5owDtSc7
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Originally Posted by 4orust View Post
here's a n album of pics:
photos.app.goo.gl/vC8byzasN5owDtSc7
You need to post it in What's it worth/appraisals topic.

We'll do it here too but it goes there technically.
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This is different. I don't think all of the parts are stock especially that RD and crank. It is in pretty rough shape and that will seriously effect value.










What is this white stuff? Wax?
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Originally Posted by 4orust View Post
Hi, I'm trying to get an idea what my old 70's Schwinn Paramount frame might be worth. Exact year I don't' know. It's an almost complete bike but a Frankenstein component-wise. It's been repainted twice, no decals. Currently a two-tone British Racing Green (head tube is darker green). Silca pump matches head tube, painted and canti braze-ons added by Chris Kelly. I plan to offer it as a frameset only.

Caveat - the little I've researched, the serial number doesn't match online info related to Paramounts. What else could it be? KPD1650K

Does anyone know how I can include photos? I keep getting an error message - "no url's till you've done 10 posts", but as you see there are no url's in this post...? And the Help is no help!
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You need 10 posts, 5 x 2 days to post pics directly.

That s/n is not right, it may be a substitute for the original one, this was sometimes done on bikes that had the s/n removed so a new one was created and stamped where most normally are.

the original should be on the outside of the NDS rear dropout, if it is gone it severely diminishes the value and this one is already very challenged
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The number on the bottom bracket may be a licensing ID from a police department in a town beginning with the letter "K" i.e. "Knoxville Police Department."
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
The number on the bottom bracket may be a licensing ID from a police department in a town beginning with the letter "K" i.e. "Knoxville Police Department."
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DOH!

Good call Brent, I didn't put KPD together but that's what I was getting at.

I talked to a guy with a chrome Paramount that he had cleared and renumbered by a PD back east somewhere but he didn't still have the paperwork.

I told him that could have sold me on it and he said he understood all that.

It was priced right but way out of town so I didn't get there, yet.

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What is the size of the bike? And are the wheels 700c or 27"?

The white stuff could be wax, or dried limestone dust from a crushed limestone trail.
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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread View Post
What is the size of the bike? And are the wheels 700c or 27"?

The white stuff could be wax or dried limestone dust from a crushed limestone trail.
It's a 21" frame with 27" wheels. The white stuff is from riding in the desert - I just have to give it a thorough washing, so please ignore the dust and slightly rusty components.
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Originally Posted by 4orust View Post

Caveat - the little I've researched, the serial number doesn't match online info related to Paramounts. What else could it be? KPD1650K
There's no SN on the Non Drive Side rear dropout?
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Brazed on downtube shifter bosses as mounting points for cable stops and adjusters, cantilever brake mounts, brazed on waterbottle mounts.
respray. Modified significantly at some point. The posts set for 27" wheels hurt today.
there is a market for this bike, but it is small. As a frameset she market is small.
A hard one to price.
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Originally Posted by repechag
As a frameset, the market is small.
A hard one to price.
$100?

Probably more ($200) parted-out.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
There's no SN on the Non Drive Side rear dropout?
It looks like a restamp with KPD prefix from a Police Department, might be one that was recovered and cleared at some point.

I also asked if the factory one was there or had been ground off.
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+10 If there is no non-drive serial number, it could be anything. Rough condition, plus odd mix of parts = $150.

Tip: even the steer tube on the 1970s had a matching serial number on it. So if it is a Paramount, the steer tube WILL be marked. Highly doubtful anyone dug that deep to obliterate serial number.

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OP, What others have sais....all P's had the serial number stamped on the rear stay, with matching number on the fork...any numbers there?
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Hmmmm, is it just me or could we hope a new OP would engage us for more than 3 out of 15 posts when they ask for our help?

Nah, nevermind, what was I thinking.
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Sorry for late reply. I have to dig it out of my stack of bikes again to check the left rear dropout - might take me a day or two

p.s. I had notifications set to weekly but changed that now to instant

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Right Bianchigirll - nothing is stock as I bought it as a frame originally, way back in the early 80s and built it up in my own special ways!

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
$100?

Probably more ($200) parted-out.
So $50-$75 for the frameset alone?
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Get the serial number questions answered (fork and non drive side drop out) and value could go up! A real Paramount in poor condition will have more value than an unidentified bike.
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@4orust is it American Maid?

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Originally Posted by 4orust View Post
So $50-$75 for the frameset alone?
In my opinion, even if we can't determine what it is, the frame set is probably worth around $100. If it's a Paramount, more.
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