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Mid-80’s Ciöcc Designer, Campy Victory/Triomphe with Sewups

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Mid-80’s Ciöcc Designer, Campy Victory/Triomphe with Sewups

Old 01-02-20, 05:05 PM
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Mid-80’s Ciöcc Designer, Campy Victory/Triomphe with Sewups

This Ciöcc came into Bike Works (bikeworks.org) in Seattle as a donation in really nice condition. Bike Works asked me to come up with a suitable asking price for this beauty, so here’s that request.

Specs and components follow the photos. Clicking on any photo will take you to my extensive SmugMug gallery for this beauty, also linked below. If there’s a photo or spec that’s needed, don’t hesitate to ask. The last few shots show the as-received condition.


In cleaning up the drivetrain, the 7mm self-extracting NDS crank bolt on the Campy Victory crank (with it’s crazy left-hand dust cap threads) rounded out the corners. Yes, we were using a good condition 7mm Allen wrench that worked fine on the DS. C&V folks might remember the thread asking about suitable replacements for the crank. Thanks to @nomadmax, it now has an essentially new condition Campy Triomphe crank (normal threads!), rings and the correct Campy BB. Besides cleaning, we recabled the brakes but intentionally left the classic rear shifter housing, and taped the bars with Fiz’ik Tempo.

I’ll gladly facilitate a local sale to a PNW buyer, including meeting at BW for a test ride. I could probably get @RiddleOfSteel to extend that offer to the Portland area, if you can wait until his next family visit. I will also include a pair of new Continental Sprinter 250 tubulars if the buyer is interested.

Frame specs:
Columbus tubing. No helical ridges in ST, so probably SL
ST: 57.5cm ctc
TT: 56cm ctc
CS: 415mm
HT: 158mm
Rear spacing: 126mm
Seat post: 27.2mm Campy
Braze-on FD mount

Full chrome rear triangle, chrome fork. There are chain slap marks on the DS CS, but all chrome is in VG condition. Fork crown as shown has some discoloration. Hope my photos captured that.

Cinelli 95mm 1R stem with Cinelli 64-42 bars
Full Campagnolo components, including:
32H Record hubs, Campy Omega rims with Continental Giro (23mm actual) sewups in new condition. Wheels are quite true.
6-speed freewheel
Campy brakes with grey/tan Campy pads, plenty of life.
RD is still Campy Victory with the variable B-stop and a bit of road-rash; FD is Campy

I will re-post in C&V FS when there’s a price consensus..

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I think $700 would be a good price for both parties. A few years ago, I would have said $900.

I'd assume the frameset (with headset) could be sold for $500ish on ebay. (or more?)

I've seen the bike, and it really is beautiful. The pics don't do it justice. (No offense, D!)
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Nice !

Looks a lot like mine , and similarly equipped , except for the fully chromed tail end on yours -- beautiful machine -- wish I could offer an honest opinion on value -- here lately , its like throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded with nicer stuff. Facebook marketplace in my area has killed local transactions --- Saw a nice 853 framed LEmond for sale for $75, so the occasional ringer deal like that skews the averages down a lot for some reason

Good luck with the sale --- I know I wouldn't want any less than $500 for mine -- but even at that price , It may be sitting on my wall for a long time

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I would say $600 or so would be a fair cash price for the bike on a local sale and I would expect it to take awhile to sell. Really great framset but the sewups and Victory components will likely turnoff buyers not looking for a serious collectors bike and that market is down a bit lately.
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If it helps I just sold my Designer 84 for $200 to a guy at my LBS. I had it listed for $350 with no hits for months. Now mine was totally sound mechanically but cosmetically it had a lot of marks in the paint and the chrome on the fork was rough. I may have gotten more if I held out but I wanted the space and the guys at the LBS hook me up all the time. Glad to move it on to one of them. He had got a Motta last year so the youngster has good taste in older bikes. We did agree that I keep the Cinelli saddle and I always sell without pedals. He did get some pretty new Conti GP4000s II with latex tubes thought. I sold this as it was a 57cm. I could ride it ok put really don't prefer to go over 56cm. Now I have to find another in my size as this beast rode so nice.

Looks good until you get close

The other fork blade was a lot worse.
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