kross57

As a project bike I picked up this Peugeot. It appears to be a 1986 Tourmalet. Correct? Sachs Huret Rival derailleurs. Rigida 27" rims. Nervar crank.

Any info appreciated. This was a model that was not around too long.

Every surface was covered with a brown layer, exactly the color of rust, but it was actually a coating of grime. Underneath it, the frame is solid, with hardly a speck of rust. All the components are functional. I think with a thorough cleaning and service, it will be a solid bike.

I will probably sell it. Hard to say what the value will be. Lately prices have been up.

kepohe

Hello, I'm french.

103 carbolite is basic, not hight quality tube for professional. Peugeot are expansive because it's a famous brand. But it's a nice bike. I like this stickers style. I think it will be very nice when you will finish to clean it.

kross57

Thanks kepohe. Yes, the forks are carbolite. I believe the rest of the frame is Peugeot's HLE. In 1986 this was the lowest model of their racing bikes.

T-Mar

It is a Tourmalet PH10LE. While it could be 1986, 1985 is also a possibility. The exact manufacture date can be determined from the serial number. Peugeot called it a racing bicycle due to the geometry but I don't know anyone from the mid-1980s who would race on HLE and 27" wheels. For me, it's more of an upper, entry level sports model and the MSRP of $269 US bears that out.

An extra $50 for a PH501 bought the same frame but with Reynolds 501 main tubes. The component group was similar but with 700C wheels. Most importantly, the extra money brought an almost 2 lb weight reduction. Given the difference, I'm surprised they sold any PH10LE. The PH501 made a quite decent club racer, except for the problematic Helicomatic hubs, which unfortunately were also used on the PH10LE.

In the future, please post drive side photos, which facilitate identification and appraisal.

kross57

Thanks Tmar.

I looked at the 1985, but in that year the forks were HLE, not Carbolite. 1986 was the only year with the HLE/Carbolite mix on the Tourmalet. So it seems I was correct on the year.

I've researched a few comments here on HLE, and apparently there are folks that really like the HLE frame. I guess handsome is as handsome does. It appears most Peugeot racers had those hubs. I haven't personally had problems with them. So far.

. Peugeot HLE Fan Club

T-Mar

Yes,I'm sure there are lots of HLE fans out there, but give them a choice between a PH10LE and a P501 of equivalent condition, at a small price difference, and the vast majority, if not all, will choose the PH501. .

The Helicomatic hubs looked on paper, addressing the issues of easy cog removal and bent axles. Consequently, they were widely spec'd but the design was poorly executed. Wheel dish was greater than normal, resulting in higher spoke breakage, The most common models used smaller drive bearings and different cones profiles that resulted in higher wear rates. The top model used a non-standard axle and cone thread. If you have on the models with the proprietary parts, replacements can be difficult and expensive to obtain.

The HLE-Carbolite combination has also been seen on some 1985 models. It's one of those cases where they would appear to have introduced a change after the catalogue was issued.

kross57

Yes, Peugeots often don't match the catalogs exactly. For example, if mine is an 86, the catalog shows the 1986 as having double water bottle braze-ons. Mine does not. But close enough is good enough. At least I have the model nailed down.

ViaBike

This 1987 Tourmalet does match its description and this is the HLE tubing description