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1971 Mercier Tour de France vs Miyata Sport 10

Old 05-15-20, 01:42 AM
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1971 Mercier Tour de France vs Miyata Sport 10

Hi all,

I am considering buying two different bikes off CL, and need your expert advice on vintage bikes.

One is a 1971 Mercier Special Tour de France (#101 10 speed) brand new out of the box with all of its original components. So itís a brand new 1971 that was never sold in the store in 1971.

While the other is a Miyata Sport 10 with restored frame, overhauled bottom bracket, steerer tube and both wheel hubs with new bearings. Brand new front and rear tires and inner tubes. New chain, handle bar tapes, seat and seat post. New brake and gear cables and housings.

I have appointments to go see both tomorrow but really donít know much about bikes!

If I were to go for the Mercier with all original parts, what is typically needed to maintain/upgrade the bike?

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https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml...124356018.html
$575



https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...124233916.html
$474 (weird price)
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You're having bad luck in your quest. The Mercier was ridden at least once, since the fork is bent backward, clearly from a frontal impact (and the frame may be bent as well; hard to tell from the picture).

Weirdly, the Miyata's fork seems to be bent forward.

If you can get it for a substantial discount, given that you'll need to pay someone competent to straighten the fork, the Mercier is a far better bike.
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Those are prices are way off on these bikes. That's a hard pass on both.

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Those prices are outrageous. The Mercier's fork is bent, so the seller also is a liar. Walk away...
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I wouldn't necessarily assume that the Mercier was ridden and crashed. I've seen more than a few bicycles that have come straight out of the cartons with a bent fork, courtesy of a clamp trick or simply dropping a box on the front end. Having said that, even if it's NOS, it would still require a complete overhaul. I wouldn't trust 50 year grease. It probably also needs replacement brake pads and brake cable look like they may be corroded. Pricing, as noted is preposterous.

The Miyata is their base 1985 model. Technically, it is the better bicycle in that it has CrMo main tubes, an easier to work with cotterless crankset, superior performing derailleurs and no French threads or sizing. Plus, it's already been overhauled. It's hard to say if the fork has been bent and then pulled out too much. It could just be an illusion, as I notice that the fork is slightly turned. Regardless, like the Mericier the price is outrageous. Brand new, in 1985, the MSRP was only $165 US.

For those prices, you should be able to get a much higher grade, very good condition, completely overhauled bicycle that is about 5-6 lbs lighter, superior performing in all aspects and with more amenities.
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Pass on both bikes. Too much damage, in my opinion.
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another Mercier in Vancouver as a fork comparison.
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...121662964.html
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Back in 1971, that Mercier would have sold for about $125. It is more or less equivalent to a Peugeot AO8.
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Wow, thank you all for your replies and your willingness to help me on my journey to find the right bike (which will be neither of these)!
I am so happy that I decided to ask before buying!
I had been very excited to see both these bikes, but I understand that they are far too expensive for the shape they are in. I guess I will have to keep searching!

As a last question, would anyone recommend the second Mercier thatís posted in this thread by hazetguy? Thank you again for linking the posts!
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Originally Posted by iorgil View Post
Wow, thank you all for your replies and your willingness to help me on my journey to find the right bike (which will be neither of these)!
I am so happy that I decided to ask before buying!
I had been very excited to see both these bikes, but I understand that they are far too expensive for the shape they are in. I guess I will have to keep searching!

As a last question, would anyone recommend the second Mercier thatís posted in this thread by hazetguy? Thank you again for linking the posts!
It's hard to tell the shape that the bike is in from the crummy pic. The seller is willing to entertain offers. I like old French bikes and I like Merciers. But they are a bit tougher to find parts on. Are you willing to do your own work? This bike is a project.

I'd offer $75 for this bike and see what happens. There are always other fish in the sea if this one does not pan out.
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That Mercier guy has 2 of them. I think the other one was blue. The Miyata guy likes to price his bikes that way, I guess it stands out more, even if they are always, imho aspirational.

There was another guy from vancouver in the last few days asking about bikes. The Miyata is a nice example of what to look out for at those prices. The derailleur is on a claw, stem shifters, brake lever extensions.... If you're willing to spend those asking prices, those probably AREN'T what you're looking for.

Good luck!
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I honestly hadn't the slightest clue about vintage bikes, but it's great to have feedback and be able to search through other threads on how to refurbish these vintage beauties. As others have said, Vancouver is quite expensive in finding decent bikes, so even with those prices above, I thought I was finding a steal!
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