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Old 05-20-20, 11:34 AM
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Murati?

Can anyone tell me anything about this bike? It looks like it could be over sized tubing?



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JUST A GUESS.....................(Never heard of a Muratori). But, it really looks Japanese. And, very fast. High end. Probably top of the line Ishiwata or Tange frame. $$$BIG BUCKS$$$. Still guessing, I would call that somewhere between a $500 to $1000 bike. Good luck. Be good. Have fun.
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Based on on the stay and blade end finishing, what appears to Columbus dropouts and European tertiary components, in conjunction with 600 Ultegra STI, my inclination would be a mid to late 1990s Italian marque. Agreed, it appears to be large diameter tubing based on the size of the top and down tubes relative to the head and seat tubes.

Edit: Given the apparent level and era, it's curious that there are only provisions for one water bottle and no pump peg, though the absence of the latter was fairly common on European market models.

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Based on on the stay and blade end finishing, what appears to Columbus dropouts and European tertiary components, in conjunction with 600 Ultegra STI, my inclination would be a mid to late 1990s Italian marque. Agreed, it appears to be large diameter tubing based on the size of the top and down tubes relative to the head and seat tubes.

Edit: Given the apparent level and era, it's curious that there are only provisions for one water bottle and no pump peg, though the absence of the latter was fairly common on European market models.
I wasn’t able to get it ultimately, sold before I got there for $170 - seems like a great price. I agree it looks like ELOS to me, and since the seller is in Milan it was probably made by one of the local shops to someone’s specifications.
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I wasn’t able to get it ultimately, sold before I got there for $170 - seems like a great price. I agree it looks like ELOS to me, and since the seller is in Milan it was probably made by one of the local shops to someone’s specifications.
That is unfortunate, both because of the great price and the missed opportunity to examine it in detail, which surely would have allowed to corroborate the nationality, if not the lineage. Like you, I suspect it was contract manufactured for a local shop. MIlan and the surrounding area is rife with bicycle manufacturers, 2nd in Italy only to the Padova region.
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Curiously, Muratori is both an Italian surname and a Japanese one. The latter is written [redacted under duress] and is unusual.

Oh FFS. The software tells me: "Some of the characters in your post are not allowed". Literally, it means "village bird", which I'd have thought would be innocuous. It's the subject of this web page, which says that only about 110 people in Japan are so named, and that about 80 of these live in Yokkaichi.
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I'm also guessing this is Japanese. And, very expensive $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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There are no hits when I google in a Japanese-language cycling context for either "Muratori" or the Japanese script I'm not permitted to enter here but that's pronounced "Muratori". So if it were Japanese, then I'd expect it would be a one-off. Here in Japan, one does sometimes see custom-ordered (or anyway custom-painted) frames that show their makers only inconspicuously, if at all, and instead show the owner's name or other name, slogan, or similar. But I've never seen such a name emblazoned so boldly. Possibly it's Japanese but for export somewhere (cf "Nishiki", a name that's almost unknown here), but it's hard to believe that it was something either marketed or owned in Japan.
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