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1974-5 Motobecane Grand Jubilee

Old 07-05-20, 11:11 AM
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1974-5 Motobecane Grand Jubilee

Hi, im selling this gran jubilee for a a friend and want to get an idea what i should list it for. I know french bikes have a special market. Good thing its not my size, or id want to keep it!!

paint looks ok, looks mosth original. Rims match. Original huret jubilee long cage rear derailleur, which i think is nice. The saddle has obviously been replaced. And someone put some bar end shifters on. Im not sure if the crank is original, being SR.

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Old 07-05-20, 11:15 AM
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I am normally opposed to saying and/or doing this, but it is worth a lot more parted out than as a whole.
not that it really helps with setting a price, but you are either going to:
-overprice it based on components and nobody will buy it
or
-sell it too cheap and someone will part it out for good money
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Old 07-05-20, 11:18 AM
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Man...i was hoping nobody would say that....Parting out breaks my heart. Just checked out the derailleurs on ebay, ilm a bit shook.
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Old 07-05-20, 11:26 AM
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well, that's why i mentioned it.
if that showed up around here for $150 or less, i would not hesistate to buy it, part it out, sell the few big $$ stuff on ebay, then donate the remnants to the local bike thrift store for the tax credit.
it showed up for $150 or more, maybe other local flippers would be interested, but if they didn't scoop it up (and part it out), it would sit for a long time.
it seems to be a middle of the road frame with a few fancy, blingy parts on it. if it were higher up the food chain i'd be less inclined to part it out, but to me, it's nothing overly desirable as far as the frame and "other" components.
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Old 07-05-20, 11:30 AM
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In my market, it wouldn't last a week at $300. I think it would sell at $400.
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Old 07-05-20, 11:35 AM
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^^^interesting how markets differ. priced at $300-$400 here, it would linger on cl forever.
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Old 07-05-20, 12:00 PM
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Also worth noting im in the san francisco bay area, so there is a very large market. I probably not going to part it out, as whole bike prices are pretty high already. Makes sense where the online market is alot larger than the local area.
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Old 07-05-20, 02:29 PM
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I’d pick up a suntour rd and fd for the bike and sell the huret derailleurs separately
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I’d pick up a suntour rd and fd.
Mos def. And a touring saddle, maybe an inexpensive Avocet if you can find one. And a new chain. Maybe even new black cotton bar tape. Remove the reflector. Drop the top tube clamps in some naval jelly. And take the best pics you can manage with a city park in the background where you rode on your beautiful french touring bicycle with the caption, "you could be here."
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Old 07-06-20, 07:54 AM
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Kentonk,

your dating spot on

at launch, this model came through with the 49D chainset

rear mech especially valuable since it is the touring version

wrt parting out the mechs -

it is slightly unfortunate that the shift levers have been changed out. if the originals were yet present you could make up a full Jubile ensemble complete with cable guide which included the touring version of the rear mech. that would be something quite valuable.

was attracted to this model at launch and took one for a test ride from me local agent. alas, me body fell between the cracks of the sizing regime. the 58 being a shade large and the 54 clearly too small...

in the SF Bay area it will go quickly at a good price.

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I sold my 1974 GJ a few weeks ago in the SF Bay Area. It had the Model 49d crankset, was all original with the Huret shifters and derailleur (short cage rear, rather than the more desirable long cage) New Panaracer Pasela tires. Similar color and cosmetic condition to yours. 53 cm size. It sat on CL for several months at $375, then $350, then $300, finally sold at $275. That was my recent experience; it would have been worth more in pieces, but unless the frame is bent, I’m not a fan of that process
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Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
I sold my 1974 GJ a few weeks ago in the SF Bay Area. It had the Model 49d crankset, was all original with the Huret shifters and derailleur (short cage rear, rather than the more desirable long cage) New Panaracer Pasela tires. Similar color and cosmetic condition to yours. 53 cm size. It sat on CL for several months at $375, then $350, then $300, finally sold at $275. That was my recent experience; it would have been worth more in pieces, but unless the frame is bent, I’m not a fan of that process
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It is possible that your location in Punta Reyes Station may have been a factor in the slow sale. Residents of the more urban parts of the Bay Area may have not wished to make the trip for a used bicycle... Many are doing their best to limit travel due to the virus.


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I know. I just wanted to give a snapshot of my recent experience selling a very similar bike. As they say “results may vary”
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Mos def. And a touring saddle, maybe an inexpensive Avocet if you can find one. And a new chain. Maybe even new black cotton bar tape. Remove the reflector. Drop the top tube clamps in some naval jelly. And take the best pics you can manage with a city park in the background where you rode on your beautiful french touring bicycle with the caption, "you could be here."
This comment felt like a whole business class in one post. I like the idea!
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Mos def. And a touring saddle, maybe an inexpensive Avocet if you can find one. And a new chain. Maybe even new black cotton bar tape. Remove the reflector. Drop the top tube clamps in some naval jelly. And take the best pics you can manage with a city park in the background where you rode on your beautiful french touring bicycle with the caption, "you could be here."
Hahaha, We're not just selling a bike, we're selling the experience. Love it!
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Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
I sold my 1974 GJ a few weeks ago in the SF Bay Area. It had the Model 49d crankset, was all original with the Huret shifters and derailleur (short cage rear, rather than the more desirable long cage) New Panaracer Pasela tires. Similar color and cosmetic condition to yours. 53 cm size. It sat on CL for several months at $375, then $350, then $300, finally sold at $275. That was my recent experience; it would have been worth more in pieces, but unless the frame is bent, I’m not a fan of that process
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wrt parting out the mechs -

in the SF Bay area it will go quickly at a good price.

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Thanks for the very recent actual sell experience. Sounds like it's pretty unanimous to replace the derailleurs and sell them separately. Then then I can maybe post the bike for $350, and hope for maybe $300. Hopefully my Palo Alto, South Bay, location will draw the locals, who want that authentic french experience! Thank you!

Question for anyone who knows. Is the rear derailleur a standard bolt? I have some 80's suntours i will probably put on if able. I know the front derailleur may need a shim.

Thanks!
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As is if it rides OK brakes work wheels spin strait tubes hold pressure and tires are ok. I would say $300-400 value likely worth more parted out.
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the dropouts are Huret with a stop in the Huret 4 o'clock position rather than the more universal 7 o'clock position
Huret made an adaptor washer kit for mounting a mech intended for a Huret gear hanger onto a hanger with a 7 o'clock stop:





wrt mounting Maeda front mechs on metric seat tubes -

some manufacturers offered their front mechs with differing size mounting clamps

Maeda did not, save for offering 1" for use with some department store type machines

what Maeda did to get OEM sales to makers of bicycles with metric tube sets was to fit front mechs destined for metric seat tubes with a soft clear plastic shim affixed with adhesive. TTBOMK this was not offered for sale to the public, only at the OEM level.

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