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Lost Pup 07-20-20 04:30 PM

Titan Frameset Untouched Garage Find
 
I had local interest since I found this safety buried in my garage.

A Titan frame ....perfect no a chip and never been built.

Any thoughts of value would be helpful.

Comments Always Welcome

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c69fa482b.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e217defb6.jpeg

xiaoman1 07-20-20 07:26 PM

OP,
Nice frame...do you have the fork to go along with it?
Checking the net this is a source for you to check NOS TITAN Road Bike Frame: Wild Custom Paint by Dossena Carlo, Swiss, Columbus SL Lugged Steel - Bike Recyclery
Apparently a high-end frame from Switzerland, the paint, in my opinion, is beautiful, reminiscent of early Allegros.
Best, Ben
Attn: Lost Pup

From the site:
This Swiss-made Titan is a gorgeously fabricated 1980's lugged steel road frame with an intricate paint job. It is New Old Stock, and has never been built up! Several years ago an Italian distributor uncovered a handful of these, and sold them on Ebay. Most of them were "Varnished by Dossena Carlo", though I have not seen another with a paint job like this. These frames were all Columbus SL or SLX. This one does not have rifling in the tubes, so it is an SL frame. The brake bridge is unique, being wing-shaped and hollow. De Rosa "heart" lugs, chrome stays, and Campagnolo dropouts round out the build. This is a high-quality racing bicycle frame. It would look amazing with a Super Record or black 1st generation Dura-Ace group, or even a black Suntour Cyclone / Superbe build!

SoccerBallXan 07-20-20 09:03 PM

Lovely! I hope there’s an original fork, would surly help the value a lot.

NOS Swiss, Italian painted SL road frame? I’m sure you could do a few hundred. Unless I’m missing some sort of grail.

zukahn1 07-20-20 09:22 PM

Great frame don't know why but there seems to be a a lot of these the market Nos with nice custom paint and no fork My guess is they were intended to have carbon fork. As for value no fork needing a fairly rare threaded carbon or top end vintage aluminium fork the value is likely much lower than you want. I would put it fame value at $75 or so.

Lost Pup 07-21-20 12:25 AM

Thanks so much for the info and the link.

i going to search more of my BORG cube garage for the fork.

With the fork do you have any starting point for value ?

i wish to share it locally (Pickup Only) as I have no interest in shipping it.

Thnaks Again


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21598366)
OP,
Nice frame...do you have the fork to go along with it?
Checking the net this is a source for you to check NOS TITAN Road Bike Frame: Wild Custom Paint by Dossena Carlo, Swiss, Columbus SL Lugged Steel - Bike Recyclery
Apparently a high-end frame from Switzerland, the paint, in my opinion, is beautiful, reminiscent of early Allegros.
Best, Ben
Attn: Lost Pup

From the site:
This Swiss-made Titan is a gorgeously fabricated 1980's lugged steel road frame with an intricate paint job. It is New Old Stock, and has never been built up! Several years ago an Italian distributor uncovered a handful of these, and sold them on Ebay. Most of them were "Varnished by Dossena Carlo", though I have not seen another with a paint job like this. These frames were all Columbus SL or SLX. This one does not have rifling in the tubes, so it is an SL frame. The brake bridge is unique, being wing-shaped and hollow. De Rosa "heart" lugs, chrome stays, and Campagnolo dropouts round out the build. This is a high-quality racing bicycle frame. It would look amazing with a Super Record or black 1st generation Dura-Ace group, or even a black Suntour Cyclone / Superbe build!


Lost Pup 07-21-20 12:28 AM

The fork search starts today.

Thanks Again



Originally Posted by SoccerBallXan (Post 21598514)
Lovely! I hope there’s an original fork, would surly help the value a lot.

NOS Swiss, Italian painted SL road frame? I’m sure you could do a few hundred. Unless I’m missing some sort of grail.


zukahn1 07-21-20 09:06 AM

With a fork that is good match for the frame and nice headset I would put the value at $200-250 on a local sale.

Lost Pup 07-22-20 10:42 AM

Well I think this is the fork.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7cb5b6f07.jpeg

xiaoman1 07-22-20 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Lost Pup (Post 21601135)
Well I think this is the fork.

LP,
Interesting that no threads on the steerer.....What is stamped on the fork tube and dropouts?
Your frame should/might have been made out of Columbus SL, is there any rifling inside of the fork? if so that would perhaps indicate correct fork.etc.
Ben
I would like to help you clean your garage to see what other treasures you have squrriled away and forgot about. :D

rccardr 07-22-20 12:20 PM

Looks like a threadless fork, perhaps it says ‘Taiwan’ on the side?
Frame looks like it would take a 1 inch threaded fork...would also be unusual to have a frame without chrome accents that had a fully chromed fork.

nesteel 07-22-20 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Lost Pup (Post 21601135)

That indeed looks like the fork at least one Ebay seller was advertising as being surplus Titan stock about 18 months ago.

nesteel 07-22-20 12:30 PM

There's also a strong chance this frame is built with something less than SL. They pop up on Ebay occasionally, and over half of the ones I remember seeing have been made from Aelle.

SoccerBallXan 07-22-20 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 21601329)
Looks like a threadless fork, perhaps it says ‘Taiwan’ on the side?
Frame looks like it would take a 1 inch threaded fork...would also be unusual to have a frame without chrome accents that had a fully chromed fork.

Chrome chain stays with the chrome fork is a lovely touch. While the paint might not match, the chrome will always pop!

rccardr 07-22-20 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by SoccerBallXan (Post 21601466)
Chrome chain stays with the chrome fork is a lovely touch. While the paint might not match, the chrome will always pop!

I would agree but for the fact that the fork is threadless and the frame threaded.

RobbieTunes 07-23-20 05:54 AM

Hmm....Dossena Carlo or Carlo Dossena? I’ve seen references to the name both ways.

Might be a clue there. He varnished (term for painting) some Guerciotti frames, almost all with distinctive starburst schemes.

Would be consistent to have a lugged fork on that frame, chrome or otherwise. Most of his frames are with a finished fork in a scheme like the frame.

With matching fork, worth a nice penny if the scheme appeals.

Chombi1 07-25-20 06:34 PM

Nice,.......as already noted, must have been bought during the big Titan warehouse sale just a few years ago. I wanted to get one too, but by the time I noticed the sales, most of the frames they were selling, did not include a fork. Plus the paintjob style on the ones left were kinda weird looking to me, So.....mehh for me....:(
Too bad, cause I still have a cool Titan pantographed stem for a Titan build. Hopefully one in just a nice plain red and white (Swiss flag colors) and a matching fork will eventually pop up for me to buy, to do that long awaited Swiss Titan build.

Lost Pup 07-26-20 07:43 AM

Thanks for all the helpful replies.

A happy and excited buyer was found quickly and sold.
He stopped over to look it over and said that it looked incredible in person.
No haggle ....$250 done.

Lost Pup 07-27-20 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21601318)
LP,

I would like to help you clean your garage to see what other treasures you have squrriled away and forgot about. :D

I would gladly accept the help ...i have four or five Found boxes marked bike parts. I did allot of couch building while surfing the net back in those days. ( pre marriage and kids ). The second and last frame is a Kona Paddy Wagon frameset, new and unbuilt. I will get to posting them , I had money in those days so I am looking forward to those boxes.

I think these items have been dormant for ten years , stored since moving into this house.


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