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Old 08-02-20, 06:28 AM
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1976 Colnago Super

Hi, I recently picked up a colnago super from 1976 with campy nuovo record components, even the pedals are campy clipless. Unfortunately itís one size smaller from my size, 53cm frame size. It has rust spots and I would try to restore it if I could keep it but I wonít due to its size. Just wondering whatís the value of this bike if I decide to sell.

will add pics shortly. iím not able uplof pics since Iím new, this rule doesnít help a new comer

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Old 08-02-20, 05:42 PM
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Just respond 10 times to this or different threads

The reason BF does this is to make sure the person is legit.

Looking forward to the pics as I MYSELF are fortunate enough to have a 1976 Colnago Super !!!!!!!
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Old 08-03-20, 08:31 AM
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Reasonable
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Originally Posted by bikemike73 View Post
Just respond 10 times to this or different threads

The reason BF does this is to make sure the person is legit.

Looking forward to the pics as I MYSELF are fortunate enough to have a 1976 Colnago Super !!!!!!!
Count me in, I have a Ď77 with Campy NR components.
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Old 08-03-20, 06:54 PM
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I hit my 5 message limit, getting there. I have the pics ready.
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...on value, I bought an early 70's Colnago Super (frame only) here in NorCal a few weeks back for $350. It needed some paint work, which I am now doing myself. For some reason the complete bicycles seem to hold value in the $1,000 range. Less if it's rode hard and put away wet, more if pristine.
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And, chainstay photo:
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Old 08-03-20, 09:24 PM
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That is a pretty bike, and apparently in excellent condition.

I'm going to give a pretty broad price range of $600 to $1200.

As-is, it should be able to sell for $600 fairly quickly.

Add a new chain, a deep cleaning, and perhaps a complete lube job (remove all bearings, clean and regrease), and you should be hitting closer to $800.

I think the fork crown could use some help, although I'm not quite sure what.

Then there is a question of "improvements". I like aero brake levers, but are those original? Clipless? Date codes on the rear derailleur and crankset?

The mottling of the anodized rims is pretty common. I'd probably upgrade to some appropriate low profile clincher rims. But, there are arguments to stick with original 70's era sewups.

Unfortunately, beyond the basic cleaning, lube, and making sure all the parts are on the bike, one can quickly plunge down a rabbit hole of upgrades. And, try to satisfy the "purist", and one spends a lot of money irrelevant to the "rider" type of buyer. And, go for pure riding and aesthetics, and the purist will be put off.
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Nice looking bike, but it's not a 1976. More like '80.
https://www.velo-retro.com/colnagotline.html

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Pretty bike.
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@ hazetguy I determined its year based on the info on cycling obsession blog post named how to identify a colnago super. Will add some additional pictures and details shortly.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
Nice looking bike, but it's not a 1976. More like '80.
Velo-Retro: Colnago Super Timeline


Campagnolo SGR-1 pedals, 1988 to 1991:
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo SGR-1, Record

VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo SGR-1, Record

Campagnolo C-Record (or Chorus) AERO brake levers. Mid to late 80's.
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo C-Record

VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Chorus

Campagnolo Nuovo Record Crankset and chainrings, 1967 to 1987 (Note, they should have a date code stamp on the back side):
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo 1049, (Nuovo) Record Strada v4 (BCD 144)

The Rear derailleur should also have a date code. I think that is barely visible in the photo: PAT 80 on the top of the derailleur.

The white derailleur pulleys may also not be original, but nearly all Nuovo Record rear derailleur pulleys have cracked due to age, so the upgrade is fine. If Campagnolo pulleys, they could be a C-Record or similar type, although I'd wonder why they would have been replaced in the 80's or 90's.

Anyway, a couple of non-original components, but I think they work well with the bike.
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@ hazetguy I determined its year based on the info on cycling obsession blog post named how to identify a colnago super. Will add some additional pictures and details shortly.
there has been a lot of discussion about Colnago Super dating, and the link i posted (might not work due to BF linking restrictions) has been well researched and "documented" (not my site, that's just the general concensus).
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt

it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.

I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.

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Old 08-04-20, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
there has been a lot of discussion about Colnago Super dating, and the link i posted (might not work due to BF linking restrictions) has been well researched and "documented" (not my site, that's just the general concensus).
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt

it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.

I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
You will make me restore it and I will end up keeping the bike I ride 56/57/58cm and this is a 53.5Ē, I wish it was my size.

thanks to both of you for providing these info. Additional pics are on the way.
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
there has been a lot of discussion about Colnago Super dating, and the link i posted (might not work due to BF linking restrictions) has been well researched and "documented" (not my site, that's just the general concensus).
here are the detail "changes" for '80, both of which are evident on your bike:
1980
- Fluted seat stay caps engraved COLNAGO and straight seat stays (no longer biconical shape)
- Brake bridge with square boss for recessed brake bolt

it also looks like yours has nutted brake calipers, where they "should" be recessed.
almost looks like the previous owner has used brake cables for shifter cables, so perhaps they used shifter cables for brake cables? you might want to look into that.

I also have a Super from this same year range. very nice ride, i love it a lot.
....turns out my frame, which was sold to me as "early to mid 70's" is also a 1980, with the telltale pantographed stay caps and recessed brake bolt bridge. I don't think it will make that much difference in how I outfit it, but it might dictate my choice of hubs. I thought it looked newer than 70's when I bought it, but once again made the mistake of assuming a CL seller was well informed about the bicycle he was selling. So thanks from me, too.
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Btw what is barely visible in the background is a $30 bike repair stand I gor at Lidl holding this beauty I removed the chain on purpose because it was not in great shape, I measured a brand new KMC chain but havenít installed it yet since I was not sure how to proceed - sell as is / sell after some cleaning/lubrication/ or restore and keep.
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You will make me restore it and I will end up keeping the bike I ride 56/57/58cm and this is a 53.5”, I wish it was my size.

thanks to both of you for providing these info. Additional pics are on the way.
...mine had some very similar cosmetic flaws. There was some paint flaking and rust in several spots under the top tube, the cable guides were paint free and rusty, that chrome fork was starting to show an unfortunate golden color under the chrome that is indicative of some corrosion that will soon be impossible to disguise, and the fork crown pantographing (apparently done post chroming) looked just like that. I just prepped, primed, and painted those spots and the entire fork with Marine Blue (the color of my frame), and filled the pantographing with a yellow that matches the decal lettering.

The decals are easily obtained from a couple of sources ( I used H Lloyd, but these are so popular to repaint that the decals pop up all over the place.)

So you won't get any restoration money or your time involved back on a sale, but you can tell whoever is buying it that it's not a huge job. I would definitely sell as is.

...or maybe sell the frame and keep the parts package in hopes of finding a frame only in my own size.
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I had thought I saw the "80" on the derailleur.
https://vintagecannondale.com/info/campagnolo/
1973 – 1979 The year of crank manufacture is the last digit in a diamond
That gives you a 1978 crankset and a 1980 rear derailleur. And, probably somewhat newer derailleur pulleys.

The early Nuovo Record Front derailleur cages also had no holes. Yours has 3 holes:
VeloBase.com - Component: Campagnolo Nuovo Record 0104007 (1982 - 1987, 3-hole standard band)

That dates it to 1982 to 1985.

Overall it isn't a big deal, but it may mean the bike was restored, or assembled from parts at some point in the past, or has had a history of heavy use and worn parts.
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My Superissimo is no older than '83 based on the SR RD. I have no reason to doubt it is not the first on the bike. Wish mine had the fluted caps, much nicer. Totally different decals
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Lovely bike. I dig that color of paint. Mine is gold.
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I think $1200 is reaching, but mainly because of the condition of some of the components or their hardware. Cleaned up? Could fetch a grand - but it is on the small size, so...you never know.

OP: In the interests of full disclosure (of what I can tell about your bike from the photos), I'd say the frame/fork is from around 1980-81 based on the foil "chrome" chainstay decal. Those didn't stay around long as the treatment was deemed cheap; that feedback got back to Colnago. Frame/fork is likely built for recessed brake fittings; the current setup is a compromise, and never having tried such a setup I can't give feedback on how well it might work. The Cinelli XA stem looks to be mated to a Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar, and the brake levers are later Record or Athena/Veloce. The pedals are pretty much paperweights today

However! The frame really is in fantastic shape. The bits of surface rust will come off easily (lots of rust-removal threads here on the Forum); I myself cleaned up worse than what currently graces your fork crown from a Bianchi I bought last summer. The overall paint looks great and seems to need only spot cleaning, a bit of rust-removal and a polish. The decals - except the for the easy-to-replace Columbus decal - also look to be in fine shape. The paint and decals are obviously original. The remaining parts just need some polishing and rust-removal. How worn is the sidewall of that rear rim? Hard to tell from the photos, but to me that's the worst of the wear, and it may well be more cosmetic than anything else.

You can turn it into something special without too much effort or expenditure.

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