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ovidiu.n 08-19-20 02:33 AM

Help identifying vintage race bike
 
Hello everyone,
I`ve recently purchased my first vintage race bike and I need your help identifying it, as I want to restore it because is in working condition but needs a lot of work.
It`s 14 speed bike with Tretubi aelle frame, Shimano shifter and brakes and on the bottom it says Made in France.
Any help would be appreciated.. If you need more pictures please let me know.
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jamesdak 08-19-20 08:08 AM

Wow, not info on that but it's quite interesting. Curious to see how this one develops. Cool bike!

DMC707 08-19-20 09:10 AM

I remember Laser making BMX machines in the 80's -- and this bike is 80's too --- couldn't tell ya if it the same company or not

the MAde In France could just be for that plastic cable guide -- im taking a wild guess that being Tre Tubi and 80's, the bike could be from any number of small Italian makers -- but I also wouldn't rule out a re-paint and re-decal job given the faux carbon wrap I see on the top tube and possibly seatstays

ovidiu.n 08-19-20 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by DMC707 (Post 21649237)
I remember Laser making BMX machines in the 80's -- and this bike is 80's too --- couldn't tell ya if it the same company or not

the MAde In France could just be for that plastic cable guide -- im taking a wild guess that being Tre Tubi and 80's, the bike could be from any number of small Italian makers -- but I also wouldn't rule out a re-paint and re-decal job given the faux carbon wrap I see on the top tube and possibly seatstays

Thank you so much for your help, as I said I have almost 0 experience with racer bikes.

You are right about the made in France, it`s on the plastic cable guide.
I removed the carbon wrap from the top tube and it`s yellow. The color looks original, i see another layer of white under but that could be the primer.
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kross57 08-19-20 10:29 AM

Looks like a well made bike. Apparently tretubi means the 3 main tubes. There is a lot of discussion of Aelle steel in this thread. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...bus-aelle.html

ovidiu.n 08-19-20 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by kross57 (Post 21649414)
Looks like a well made bike. Apparently tretubi means the 3 main tubes. There is a lot of discussion of Aelle steel in this thread. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...bus-aelle.html

Yes, it`s very well made. From what i can tell, almost all the parts are original and it still works.

AeroGut 08-19-20 02:56 PM

If the Shimano 105 "Golden Arrow" components are original, that places it to 1983-1986 give or take a bit.

madpogue 08-19-20 06:28 PM

Is there a serial number anywhere, and if so, where? It might be obscured by the BB cable guide.

ovidiu.n 08-20-20 01:23 AM

Haven`t seen any serial number on it, but i will try to look closer this afternoon.

steve sumner 08-20-20 04:07 PM

the plastic cable guide is made in France but also the swedged seat stay treatment is very French
what is the BB threading?

ovidiu.n 08-21-20 02:04 AM

On the BB it says Shimano Japan, 1.37 x 24T so I`m guessing it`s an English” threading.
Also on the big front chainwheel it says FC-S125

kross57 08-21-20 06:52 AM

I am generally not a fan of repainting frames, but this is one I would consider. Especially since there is quite a bit of rust and an unknown maker. Stripped down, repainted, serviced and rebuilt, that would be a nice road bike. A fun project if you have the time.

ovidiu.n 08-21-20 07:20 AM

Those were my thoughts also. When I will have a little time, I will disassemble it and start working on it. I hope I will get it ready until next year :)

T-Mar 08-21-20 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by AeroGut (Post 21649929)
If the Shimano 105 "Golden Arrow" components are original, that places it to 1983-1986 give or take a bit.

That's a good fit for the Laser brand, which had it's debut in late 1982 for the 1983 model year. 105 is also an appropriate level for tretubi Aelle. I'd be leaning to 1985-1986, as fade paint schemes really didn't become popular until late 1984, when Grewal won the road race at the LA Olympics on his Pinarello with the Arco paint scheme. It shouldn't be as late as 1987, unless it's been rebuilt, as 2nd generation New 105 was introduced for the 1987 model year. Component date codes should corroborate the time frame.

ovidiu.n 08-26-20 06:33 AM

Yesterday I finished cleaning it up and took it for a ride. I need to change the chain, because it slips on lower gears. The paint job I postponed until I can get more details on the bike.

ovidiu.n 09-19-20 01:09 AM

Hi guys,
What chain do you recommend? It`s a 14 speed

Bianchigirll 09-19-20 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by ovidiu.n (Post 21701912)
Hi guys,
What chain do you recommend? It`s a 14 speed


I have been using KMC chains and the work pretty well.

Something like this should be perfect

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BTW that carbon wrap is interesting, I thinking about doing something like that to Ugly Betty

ovidiu.n 09-20-20 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 21702430)
I have been using KMC chains and the work pretty well.

Something like this should be perfect

https://pengincycle.com/uploads/3/4/...0_i1_w800.jpeg


BTW that carbon wrap is interesting, I thinking about doing something like that to Ugly Betty

Thank you for the KMC suggestion.

The carbon wrapping was ok, but mine was pretty old and i had to take if off. Now when i look at the bike, it looks prettier without the wrap :)


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