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Old 10-17-20, 06:07 PM
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Team bikes with provenance

I have a three team bikes with provenance that I can't bear to raise the bars on for my now 70s lack of flexibility and so should pass on. Does provenance add any real value? As an example this is Frans Maassen's 1993/1994 Wordperfect Team Colnago Master he raced in Europe. IIRC I got the frame in 2010 and installed a chorus 2x10.

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Unless buyer is a fan I really don't think it matters all that much.
It's not as if the bike's in its original Suntoury state anyway.

Gotta ask though, are those really Chorus Ergopowers?
As far as I know that style paddles only came on 9S Mirage and 10S Veloce Ergos.
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In some saturations and provable, absolutely. But such situations are few and far between. This gold plated CCM was given, by CCM, to a famous Canadian rider/competitor. My guess is this one would be incredibly valuable (I even, for no more than an hour, schemed on how I could just take it - it was in an airport)...

In the OP's case, I am not sure that the rider's mentioned would elevate value. But I am not well versed in who won what when.
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In my opinion there are three major factors:

1. Popularity/success of the rider.
2. Victories obtained on the actual bicycle.
3. Originality and condition of the bicycle.

Obviously, an all original, good condition bicycle which a very popular rider rode to major victories is going to be very desirable. A non-original, poor condition condition bicycle of a journeyman pro with no victories will be close to standard market value of a consumer edition in similar condition.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
...I even, for no more than an hour, schemed on how I could just take it - it was in an airport...
Now, I know never to let you into my bicycle room.
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A bike from a popular team , such as domestically , 7-11, Motorola, USPS -- or a real MApei or Rabobank bike would likely command a premium regardless of the rider - just thinking of stuff from the last 30 years or so.

HAve seen a couple of examples of lesser tiered team bikes (Coors Light Serotta's , LA Sheriff Litespeeds , go for about what id expect a bike from either maker would go for otherwise though
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Took these a couple of years ago at a vintage bike get together. Another guy was there riding a Razesa Banesto that he claimed was owned by his neighbor and had belonged to Big Mig. It seemed pretty convincing but who knows.

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