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tmoneygetpaid 05-04-21 01:15 PM

Francesco Moser (ID and pricing help!) - late 70s with some panto parts
 
This was my dad's main trainer. It's a 57cm Moser, I believe it's a late 70s Professional, but any help with identification would be appreciated. I'd love to sell or trade for something comparable in my size, 58-59, though preferably late 80s built for 700c wheels.

The paint is rough and the parts are somewhat scratched. All the parts mechanically work great. Assuming I swap the wrecked saddle, let me know that you all think it's worth.

Here are the photos.

zukahn1 05-04-21 01:45 PM

Wow that is a nice bike the pricing is out of my realm I would guess $1000 give or take.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ef8b3eb0f3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0f6e36035b.jpg

Erzulis Boat 05-06-21 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by tmoneygetpaid (Post 22044556)
This was my dad's main trainer. It's a 55cm Moser, I believe it's a late 70s Professional, but any help with identification would be appreciated. I'd love to sell or trade for something comparable in my size, 58-59, though preferably late 80s built for 700c wheels.

The paint is rough and the parts are somewhat scratched. All the parts mechanically work great. Assuming I swap the wrecked saddle, let me know that you all think it's worth.

Here are the photos.

That's not a 55. Measure it.

bikemig 05-06-21 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat (Post 22048270)
That's not a 55. Measure it.

That's what I was thinking as well. It looks larger than a 55.

T-Mar 05-06-21 06:32 PM

I'd be a lot lower on pricing, less than 1/2 of what has been suggested. While the crankset pantographs are nice, it's only a mid-range Gran Sport crankset. So is the rear hub or at least its skewrer. The front wheel is mismatched. The only higher end components are the derailleurs and the front employs an adapter. No pedals. I can't identify the brakes from the pics but the levers are a later addition. Given the components. there's a very good chance that the frame is only tretubi or possibly Aelle. As for age, it's no older than a 1979 model, as it has the remanants of the 1978 Super Pernod palmares decal.

tmoneygetpaid 05-06-21 06:37 PM

It's 57cm. Yup, it's a hodgepodge of semi-appropriate parts, not gonna fetch collector value.

It looks very similar in paint color and decals to a Moser that turned up in a Google search, which named the model as "Professional" and cited Columbus SL. But info is scant, which is why I'm here.

T-Mar 05-06-21 08:41 PM

You can pretty much identify the tubing, assuming it is Columbus, by two factors:
1) seat post diameter.
2) presence or absence five hecial ridges inside the bottom of the fork's steerer tube.

27.2mm post + helical ridges = Columbus SL

27.2mm post + no helical ridges = Columbus tretubi SL

26.8mm post + no helical ridges = Columbus Aelle

Frame seems a bit small to use SP (which uses 27.0mm seat post), rather than SL,

tmoneygetpaid 05-09-21 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 22048488)
You can pretty much identify the tubing, assuming it is Columbus, by two factors:
1) seat post diameter.
2) presence or absence five hecial ridges inside the bottom of the fork's steerer tube.

27.2mm post + helical ridges = Columbus SL

27.2mm post + no helical ridges = Columbus tretubi SL

26.8mm post + no helical ridges = Columbus Aelle

Frame seems a bit small to use SP (which uses 27.0mm seat post), rather than SL,

Post is 26.8, so it looks like it is Aelle.

Bianchigirll 05-09-21 06:59 AM

After a good cleaning and overhaul it will likely be a good rider. Moser makes great bikes but they don’t get the respect other brands do

your front breake is missing the cap nut.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e4459d5dc.jpeg

tmoneygetpaid 05-10-21 11:18 AM

Thanks for the info, all.

It is Aelle tubing (26.8 post).

And I had totally forgotten about that nut, thanks for the reminder.


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