First Generation DEORE touring group.
05-05-21, 10:39 PM
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First Generation DEORE touring group.
Found yesterday and on its way to the crusher. A COMPLETE shimano DEORE first generation (1982) group, including FD, RD (long cage) Triple crankset with the specific pedals and downtube shifters.
A quick search of velobase, retrogrouch, eBay etc. I've found bits and pieces but no complete sets. And yes it's a complete group as there are not brakes specific to this group but 600 instead, so I also got a nice set of side pull 600's with the cool non aero "drilled look" levers, and a nice old Avocet leather seat. Can't tell what the hubs are but are still good. Nice aero looking 27inch Araya rims and some really skinny tires. I was stoked about getting it up and running for a vintage bike ride but of course the seat post is stuck (working on it now, but the frame is not worth going through the pain of sawing, dissolving with acid etc. If it comes out great, if not.. I got a nice group. It's dirty and gunky but everything is working. Maybe about a 7 visually but should polish up to an 8 or 9.
So, any opinions on "what its worth" for RD, FD, Crankset, pedals and shifters?? These are the parts specific to this group and there are no complete groupsets for sale that I can find. Thanks.
A quick search of velobase, retrogrouch, eBay etc. I've found bits and pieces but no complete sets. And yes it's a complete group as there are not brakes specific to this group but 600 instead, so I also got a nice set of side pull 600's with the cool non aero "drilled look" levers, and a nice old Avocet leather seat. Can't tell what the hubs are but are still good. Nice aero looking 27inch Araya rims and some really skinny tires. I was stoked about getting it up and running for a vintage bike ride but of course the seat post is stuck (working on it now, but the frame is not worth going through the pain of sawing, dissolving with acid etc. If it comes out great, if not.. I got a nice group. It's dirty and gunky but everything is working. Maybe about a 7 visually but should polish up to an 8 or 9.
So, any opinions on "what its worth" for RD, FD, Crankset, pedals and shifters?? These are the parts specific to this group and there are no complete groupsets for sale that I can find. Thanks.
05-06-21, 06:30 AM
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This is rare but not particularly valuable. The crank is a pain with the odd pedals. There are plenty of good alternatives out there if you want to fix up a vintage touring bike.
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05-07-21, 09:02 AM
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...I agree those pedals were not Shimano's greatest moment. But there's a guy making and selling insert bushings on e-bay. (From somewhere in Eastern Europe, I think.)
I used a pair of those some years back to convert one of these early Deore cranks to standard pedals on a touring frame I have here, and they work well for that. They were not expensive.
...I agree those pedals were not Shimano's greatest moment. But there's a guy making and selling insert bushings on e-bay. (From somewhere in Eastern Europe, I think.)
I used a pair of those some years back to convert one of these early Deore cranks to standard pedals on a touring frame I have here, and they work well for that. They were not expensive.
05-07-21, 09:57 AM
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What I've found is that the collectors of early mountain bikes are into this stuff. Tom Ritchey and others sold frames and folks would put these touring groups on there. I had a similar group that I sold for around 150 to 200 (in pieces).
05-07-21, 11:26 PM
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It was on a Shogun "Touring 2001". I'm in Australia and Shogun was a pretty big brand here in the 80s and 90s. Mostly low and mid range bikes, but a few pretty good ones that are sought after.
And just to make it confusing the bike is not from 2001 but from around 1984 or so and 'featured' Tange Mangaloy double butted tubing. 2001 actually refers to something in the formula for the steel. That said, its a fully lugged frame with chromed dropouts, so not crap at all and it seems to be close to a fit. But would't you know it, the frikin' seat post is fused sold and penetrant is not going to help. I've been down this road before and now I'm deciding if I should just junk it and move on or put in the time to remove the seatpost which will require sawing, drilling and melting it out with acid most likely. Pretty big process for an average frame.
And just to make it confusing the bike is not from 2001 but from around 1984 or so and 'featured' Tange Mangaloy double butted tubing. 2001 actually refers to something in the formula for the steel. That said, its a fully lugged frame with chromed dropouts, so not crap at all and it seems to be close to a fit. But would't you know it, the frikin' seat post is fused sold and penetrant is not going to help. I've been down this road before and now I'm deciding if I should just junk it and move on or put in the time to remove the seatpost which will require sawing, drilling and melting it out with acid most likely. Pretty big process for an average frame.
05-07-21, 11:30 PM
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I gotta tell ya', the pedals may not have been Shimano's crowing achievement but they are pretty dang cool and I think part of the appeal of the group. Shimano seemed to try some pretty wacky stuff back then. Have you ever seen the crank where the chainring is on some type of clutch? Found one of those on an old Peugeot and was amazed. Maybe a "Tourney" as thats what the rest of the components were.
