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Old 09-10-21, 01:40 PM
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Late-80s Basso?

This might be a 1988 Loto(?) from my quick search on the forum. I'm interested in buying it as my first road bike but I wanted to get more information before driving the 80 miles to see it. The crankset is Campagnolo but the groupset is Shimano 600? And Shimano 600 is the old version of modern-day Ultegra?


I am 5'7" and the frame is 54cm which I hear is the biggest frame size for my height. But I read that Basso bikes also have a longer top tube?


It is selling for $350. I appreciate any information you can share about this bike.




















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I'm not a Basso expert, however i am lead to believe they are good bikes, Italian of course, nice chrome front lugs, what looks alike a columbus tubing sticker, it depends on the tubing type as to whether the bike would be considered mid level or
upper level, so that being said, would i buy it... in a heartbeat at $350, i am suprised it has shimano 600 tri color components mixed with campy headset and crankset and brakes , i would definitely convert to all campy..
check for frame damage as best you can then....
Buy Buy Buy..
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Lotto?

should have columbus slx as the Lotto was the top dog.check for splines in the fork steerer tube.also look real close for any stress hairline fractures.
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Basso makes quality stuff in steel. Loto is not my favorite of the Bassos but as stated above was the top rung. Itíll ride like a dream, stable and comfortable yet nimble and stiff.

The frame alone is a $300ish piece...the tricolor RD, FD and shifters, though somewhat sacreligious, are really solid pieces.

Check at the seat lug!stays attachment area, and the top tube/fork that everything is straight. If it is, thatís a bargain.
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That’s a great price.

It will be interesting to learn how long the top tube really is. Someone put a long-reach stem on it to stretch it even longer.
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Originally Posted by Gary12000 View Post
I'm not a Basso expert, however i am lead to believe they are good bikes, Italian of course, nice chrome front lugs, what looks alike a columbus tubing sticker, it depends on the tubing type as to whether the bike would be considered mid level or
upper level, so that being said, would i buy it... in a heartbeat at $350, i am suprised it has shimano 600 tri color components mixed with campy headset and crankset and brakes , i would definitely convert to all campy..
check for frame damage as best you can then....
Buy Buy Buy..
My guess is that the Shimano derailleurs were installed because they shift far better than the Campagnolo derailleurs of the same era. It was very common for bikes to have a mix of components at that time, especially if they were built up from a bare frame
That bike is filthy, present owner gets an F- for presentation

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Originally Posted by alcjphil View Post
My guess is that the Shimano derailleurs were installed because they shif far better than the Campagnolo derailleurs of the same era. It was very common for bikes to have a mix of components at that time, especially if they were built up from a bare frame
That bike is filthy, present owner gets an F- for presentation
Agree, its a bargain and beautiful frame. Would look super with a good cleanup.
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hm Right

Originally Posted by alcjphil View Post
My guess is that the Shimano derailleurs were installed because they shif far better than the Campagnolo derailleurs of the same era. It was very common for bikes to have a mix of components at that time, especially if they were built up from a bare frame
That bike is filthy, present owner gets an F- for presentation
hm Right
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BUY IT NOW !!!!!


I have a 1990 Loto and has a mix of Campy and Shimano.

These were sold as frames......and as stated above.......shimano ......shifts......VERY SMOOTH !!!!

If this was in my area, I would go BUY it !!!

And...as stated above...seller did not even clean it up for sale.

Probably was sitting around in the attic of the bike shop, and was discovered.

Either way, looks to be in VERY nice shape. Will clean up nicely !!!


Even though I am " thinning the heard" ...slightly

Did you buy it ********************??
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Originally Posted by bikemike73 View Post
BUY IT NOW !!!!!


I have a 1990 Loto and has a mix of Campy and Shimano.

These were sold as frames......and as stated above.......shimano ......shifts......VERY SMOOTH !!!!

If this was in my area, I would go BUY it !!!

And...as stated above...seller did not even clean it up for sale.

Probably was sitting around in the attic of the bike shop, and was discovered.

Either way, looks to be in VERY nice shape. Will clean up nicely !!!


Even though I am " thinning the heard" ...slightly

Did you buy it ********************??
I have not bought it yet! Does it look like it IS a Loto? Or do I need to look at tubing stickers to confirm?
I'm hesitant because I have a short torso and the bike is made longer with the stem ><
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Originally Posted by kevsf View Post
I have not bought it yet! Does it look like it IS a Loto? Or do I need to look at tubing stickers to confirm?
I'm hesitant because I have a short torso and the bike is made longer with the stem ><

It IS a Loto !!!

You can tell by the seat stays.

100% sure

If you don't buy it let me know contact info so I can buy.
Thank you

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Originally Posted by plonz View Post
That’s a great price.

It will be interesting to learn how long the top tube really is. Someone put a long-reach stem on it to stretch it even longer.
If it's too long for me, can I can get a short-reach stem to replace the long stem?

Something like this? https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...BoCgfAQAvD_BwE
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Originally Posted by kevsf View Post
If it's too long for me, can I can get a short-reach stem to replace the long stem?

Something like this? https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...BoCgfAQAvD_BwE

that would be a lovely addition to that bike
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Originally Posted by kevsf View Post
If it's too long for me, can I can get a short-reach stem to replace the long stem?

Something like this? https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...BoCgfAQAvD_BwE
You'd also need a quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter and a bar with a fatter 31.8mm diameter (or a shim for the existing bar). Why not just buy a shorter quill stem and call it a day? lol
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You'd also need a quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter and a bar with a fatter 31.8mm diameter (or a shim for the existing bar). Why not just buy a shorter quill stem and call it a day? lol
Wowee I really don't know what I'm doing. It's impressive how you can come up with all these different dimensions/parts off the top of your head haha.
I'll have to keep searching for a bike, one that I don't have to mess with.
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Originally Posted by kevsf View Post
If it's too long for me, can I can get a short-reach stem to replace the long stem?

Something like this? https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...BoCgfAQAvD_BwE
Plenty of shorter reach stems still around but you donít want anything like the one in your link. Stick with a traditional 1Ē quill stem. Youíll also need to make sure the bar clamp diameter matches the bars you have. The stem currently on the bike looks to be a reach of 120cm-130cm. You may find this works fine. If you feel too stretched out, get a shorter reach. 100cm would probably be more common for that bike.
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Plenty of shorter reach stems still around but you donít want anything like the one in your link. Stick with a traditional 1Ē quill stem. Youíll also need to make sure the bar clamp diameter matches the bars you have. The stem currently on the bike looks to be a reach of 120cm-130cm. You may find this works fine. If you feel too stretched out, get a shorter reach. 100cm would probably be more common for that bike.
Thanks! And is there a reason to choose a quill stem vs threadless for this bike?
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Thanks! And is there a reason to choose a quill stem vs threadless for this bike?
Quill keeps the bike period correct which is what most folks here would insist on.

I use a threadless stem on one bike that I resto-modded with modern STI shifting. There are two reasons I went threadless in this case: 1) I really wanted to use Ritchey Classic handlebars and they were only available with a 31.8cm clamp area. 2) I needed quite a bit of rise and the quill equivalent would have been too much quill IMO.
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Honestly, the top tube will not be an issue with the correct stem, whether quill or a bit of a modification.

I have not found my Gap to have any longer top tube than other frames of its ilk.

Thats a solid buy.

Originally Posted by kevsf View Post
Wowee I really don't know what I'm doing. It's impressive how you can come up with all these different dimensions/parts off the top of your head haha.
I'll have to keep searching for a bike, one that I don't have to mess with.
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The picture that shows the stem seems distorted with the handlebars at the edge of the frame. It could be the original stem. If the seller has changed parts, they may include the old parts.
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