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Old 11-19-21, 04:52 PM
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The OP's Moser bike is stunning and likely historically significant. If it were mine and I needed a fork for it, I'd start by visiting the Facebook page for "Moser Cicli." I don't do Facebook, so I have no idea whether it's a fan page or a current manufacturer, but give it a go.
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Old 11-19-21, 07:45 PM
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Roberto Gaggioli had a long career. Give it a google.
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Old 11-19-21, 07:56 PM
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One more. Notice Moser on the jersey.
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Old 11-19-21, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryFrankie View Post
One more. Notice Moser on the jersey.

Dang i hope he fixed dem teef !

LOL -- i had to referee a fight at the HHH between Gaggioli and my GF's besties fiance (who was a Cat 2 at the time ) -- Mr Cat 2 got up in arms claiming Gaggioli was drafting him in the time trial that day and Roberto the hot blooded Italian got mad and started throwing fists !

Good times !
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Many of the early discs were discs over spoked wheels. My guess is at least the discs used in 1984 were discs over spoke wheels. It is possible that changed by 87 and 88 with the big wheel bike.
Disc covers on spoked wheels were illegal in events sanctioned by the UCI and any national body associated with the ICI, such as the USCF. The discs had to be an integral structural component and not just for aerodynamics. Most of the early discs were laminated to a honeycomb core.
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Old 11-20-21, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AngryFrankie View Post
One more. Notice Moser on the jersey.
Thank-you for posting the photo. Eurocar was the one team that Gaggiolo was associated with, for which I could not determine the bicycle. That would make the frame 1988-1989.
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Old 11-20-21, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
Dang i hope he fixed dem teef !

LOL -- i had to referee a fight at the HHH between Gaggioli and my GF's besties fiance (who was a Cat 2 at the time ) -- Mr Cat 2 got up in arms claiming Gaggioli was drafting him in the time trial that day and Roberto the hot blooded Italian got mad and started throwing fists !

Good times !
Yes, it seems like he found these situations more often than most people. But he was well suited to the American criterium circuit and I think had his share of success.
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Old 11-20-21, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryFrankie View Post
Roberto Gaggioli had a long career. Give it a google.

some real heavy hitters here. Sean Kelly, Fignon, Saronni

great pic
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Old 11-20-21, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DMC707 View Post
some real heavy hitters here. Sean Kelly, Fignon, Saronni

great pic
Indeed. Maybe also Steven Rooks, Moren Argentin, and Bjarne Riis?
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Originally Posted by AngryFrankie View Post
Indeed. Maybe also Steven Rooks, Moren Argentin, and Bjarne Riis?
that is Riis back there! Making me wonder, did that guy ever have hair Lol
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I started working on the bike a little last night since I’ve decided to keep it for now. I got the front derailleur unstuck and moving a little, should be okay once I get it cleaned up and lubed.

The internally routed rear brake cable might be an issue, I don’t know if the cable housing extends internally all the way back. Cable is not stuck but not smooth either. I want to know what is what before I try to pull and replace the housing.

I’ve got my eye on one or two donor bikes to provide a temporary fork and front wheel to at least get the bike ridable.

It is going to be a project, one step at a time.
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Any guesses if one of these people on Strava is the same Roberto as above?

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I noticed there is a Roberto Gaggioli facebook page.
It looks like the whole family races to some extent.

https://www.facebook.com/roberto.gaggioli.3

There is also a Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Gaggioli

It says he spent a lot of time in the USA, so I assume he speaks both Italian and English.

You might reach out to him on Facebook. He may be able to authenticate your frame, and even send some photos and component lists.
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Im back with a mock-up update.
Ive been watching for local postings of a road bike with a 650c front wheel and center mounted brakes. Found one with 650c front and rear, but way beyond my budget. Saw a Terry bike posted, but price and I think brakes were an issue. Then today I saw this Lotus, 700c rear with 24 front wheel (25-520, 600x25c marked on the tire). 2x6 Shimano 600 group. I sold some motorcycle parts after work, so I had the bike funds to buy this donor bike on the way home from work.

There are several inches of difference in the headtube lengths, so forgive the tape wrapped pipe insulation used as a spacer to help visually mock-up the fit. If it seems close to good then I can get the 24 fork steerer tube shortened and have the threads extended.

So, how does it look? Close enough? Or should I keep watching for a 650c fork or donor bike. The paint on the Lotus frame is very chipped, Tange steel, but likely a hard-sell locally. So the Lotus will become parts either for this Moser, or some future project. I added a pic of the Lotus as a point of reference.




ps, if an admin wants to move this discussion from the valuation section to the C&V, feel free to do so since people have posted a lot of good history in this discussion (value questions can be edited out, not sure if I still have that option).
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
I noticed there is a Roberto Gaggioli facebook page.
It looks like the whole family races to some extent.

https://www.facebook.com/roberto.gaggioli.3

There is also a Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Gaggioli

It says he spent a lot of time in the USA, so I assume he speaks both Italian and English.

You might reach out to him on Facebook. He may be able to authenticate your frame, and even send some photos and component lists.
I sent him a facebook message, then just followed up with another, but no response. Oh well.
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Roberto Gaggioli = ( for reference, picture the typical 'Italian-playboy' image ) ....was a successful professional cyclist .... he typically avoided swimming with the big fish of the european peloton ....he won quite a few races in North America
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Im back with a mock-up update.
Ive been watching for local postings of a road bike with a 650c front wheel and center mounted brakes. Found one with 650c front and rear, but way beyond my budget. Saw a Terry bike posted, but price and I think brakes were an issue. Then today I saw this Lotus, 700c rear with 24 front wheel (25-520, 600x25c marked on the tire). 2x6 Shimano 600 group. I sold some motorcycle parts after work, so I had the bike funds to buy this donor bike on the way home from work.

There are several inches of difference in the headtube lengths, so forgive the tape wrapped pipe insulation used as a spacer to help visually mock-up the fit. If it seems close to good then I can get the 24 fork steerer tube shortened and have the threads extended.

So, how does it look? Close enough? Or should I keep watching for a 650c fork or donor bike. The paint on the Lotus frame is very chipped, Tange steel, but likely a hard-sell locally. So the Lotus will become parts either for this Moser, or some future project. I added a pic of the Lotus as a point of reference.




ps, if an admin wants to move this discussion from the valuation section to the C&V, feel free to do so since people have posted a lot of good history in this discussion (value questions can be edited out, not sure if I still have that option).

The stance looks about right with the 24 on there
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The stance looks about right with the 24 on there
Thanks, Im trying to find a 1-24 thread die before I cut the steerer tube down.
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[QUOTE=treebound;22403907]Thanks, I’m trying to find a 1”-24 thread die before I cut the steerer tube down.[/QUOTE

The color even looks good...I would find local shop that has experience cutting and retreading that fork, the are hard to come by.
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BTW, was that a Terry built frame, 700c on rear and 650b on the front would indicate it was...if so I never knew that they had one in the lotus line-up. The Lotus could also be a rare find.
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