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Mystery Bike in Las Vegas

Old 11-20-21, 11:21 AM
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Mystery Bike in Las Vegas

From an on-line only estate auction in Las Vegas: https://lasvegasauction.hibid.com/ca...-11-20/?ipp=10
No frame decals or pics of head badge.
Bike has some interesting features and drivetrain components.
Any idea what it is and estimated worth assuming no frame damage or other deal breakers?





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Old 11-20-21, 12:01 PM
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I'm getting a Motobecane vibe. But, a mid-range model.

I think it has a deralleur hanger, and quick release that would indicate a better quality frame. However, I think it also has a fake fork crown which is typically used in lower quality bikes.

Issues I see are:
  1. Bad bar tape. Of course an easy remedy, and can modernize.
  2. Wear around seat rivets. Even with seat conditioning, the seat may not be long for this earth.
  3. Center pull brakes. They work, but have fallen out of favor.

Based on downtube water bottle mounts and not seat tube water bottle mounts, plus the center pull brakes, and the derailleur hanger. The bike is probably from the mid 70's.

The size is probably around 58cm or so.

I could imagine the bike selling for $100 to $200, but I'd target around $150.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
I'm getting a Motobecane vibe. But, a mid-range model.

I think it has a deralleur hanger, and quick release that would indicate a better quality frame. However, I think it also has a fake fork crown which is typically used in lower quality bikes.

Issues I see are:
  1. Bad bar tape. Of course an easy remedy, and can modernize.
  2. Wear around seat rivets. Even with seat conditioning, the seat may not be long for this earth.
  3. Center pull brakes. They work, but have fallen out of favor.

Based on downtube water bottle mounts and not seat tube water bottle mounts, plus the center pull brakes, and the derailleur hanger. The bike is probably from the mid 70's.

The size is probably around 58cm or so.

I could imagine the bike selling for $100 to $200, but I'd target around $150.
Thanks for quick response and comments. I'll probably throw a $100 at it and see if it sticks. If so, I'll report back.
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Old 11-20-21, 12:48 PM
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I don't think that either the bottle bosses or chain stay stop are OEM. They're farther forward on the tubes than manufacturers would typically place them. The cable stop in particular, is just far enough forward not to discolour the chrome during brazing. The bottle set is placed for a person who doesn't want to reach down too far. Given these apparent owner modifications, it's almost certainly a repaint.
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Old 11-20-21, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
I don't think that either the bottle bosses or chain stay stop are OEM. They're farther forward on the tubes than manufacturers would typically place them. The cable stop in particular, is just far enough forward not to discolour the chrome during brazing. The bottle set is placed for a person who doesn't want to reach down too far. Given these apparent owner modifications, it's almost certainly a repaint.
That might push it back into the 60's.

Are those the Mathauser finned brake pads?

You could probably sell those on E-Bay for $100 to $150, and mostly pay for your bike!!!
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The finned brake pads are definitely Mathausers......
A very sought after bike braking tech curiosity from the 70's and early 80's.
The fins on the pad holders were supposed to cool the pads down when braking, but they turned out not to really work as advertised. But heck!, they looked super cool!
If you are planning to use them as-is, be careful with those as the glue holding the pads to the finned holders might have already failed on them.
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Definitely some funky chain routing thru the RD as well….
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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
Definitely some funky chain routing thru the RD as well.
I had thought the chain was just cross chained and loose... but...

There was an era of Suntour derailleur cages that allowed the chain to be removed without removing the inner cage plate or any jockey pulleys.

So, it may be a 5 second repair throwing the chain over the upper jockey wheel.
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Thanks all!
I'm the winner.
I'll pick the bike up within 3 days and post some photos.
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Old 11-20-21, 03:42 PM
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https://lasvegasauction.hibid.com/lo...--rack-on-back

$95 + Fees.
I think you did reasonably well.

Sell those brake pads and enjoy your free bike!!!
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Old 11-20-21, 04:35 PM
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Im loving those wheels...!!!

Possibly DuraAce? Araya or Wolber rims?
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Great! It will be interesting to see better pictures of your find. By what I can see, you made out .
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Old 11-22-21, 03:20 PM
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Congratulations! For $100 that is a really nice catch, IMO. Apart from the rear rack I actually like the current choice of parts. The long-ish seat stays suggest 28mm + fenders would fit, to make it a comfy and good-looking tourer. My kinda bike.
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That's a great deal for under $100.

The chain stay cable stop is in a bit of a no man's land, and I agree with T-Mar, that it was done so as not to damage the chrome socks. The top tube cable stops might have been added at the same time as well.

Hard to say from the auction pics, but I'm getting a Japanese vibe here. Something along the lines of early/mid 70s Fuji Finest (which would account for the chrome socks, stay caps and head lugs).
The rear dropouts look like there is a horizontal line of text that's somewhat long stamped into them, which could be "Yuko Cold Forging" - we'll have to wait for more detailed pictures.


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For $100, I think you did great. The frame looks lie it is at least mid-range, maybe upper mid-range. I like the components selection. To my eye, it looks like someone took the "most bang for the buck" approach. It should clean up nicely, even with the, er, interesting braze-ons.

FWIW, I think I would get a clamp-on cable stop for seat stay/RD. I wouldn't remove the brazed on stop; I'd probably just run the cable through, may with a teflon liner. But that extra-long bousing that's one there now just doesn't look right. But that's me.
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I question Motobecane due to the chrome lugs and crown.
Good pedals, very good Japanese or Campagnolo.
upgraded brake pads for the era- a set was like $24 where Weinmann with holders would set you back $8-10. In the early 80s.
bike has received some attention.
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Old 11-28-21, 10:52 AM
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That's a great deal for under $100.

The chain stay cable stop is in a bit of a no man's land, and I agree with T-Mar, that it was done so as not to damage the chrome socks. The top tube cable stops might have been added at the same time as well.

Hard to say from the auction pics, but I'm getting a Japanese vibe here. Something along the lines of early/mid 70s Fuji Finest (which would account for the chrome socks, stay caps and head lugs).
The rear dropouts look like there is a horizontal line of text that's somewhat long stamped into them, which could be "Yuko Cold Forging" - we'll have to wait for more detailed pictures.

That pic is my Finest as I found it in the wild with that long stem and ugly saddle. If the OP's bike is a Finest, these are fine machines. One thing I associate with a Finest (in addition to many of the frame details and chrome) is the downward angling rear drop out. That is, at least in my experience, a little unusual.
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