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Old 03-17-22, 01:03 PM
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Holdsworth appraisal

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How much would you pay for the bike below? Looks to be in decent shape? Thanks in advance!

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Old 03-18-22, 03:43 PM
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Bueller?
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Originally Posted by Caliwild View Post
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Patience grasshopper itís dinner time on Friday. Any other information? Is that fork original?

I donít know too much about the brand but judging on just what I see Iíd off $250 to 300. It could be worth more but as I said I donít know much about them. Is that a full 531 frame or just TreTubi?
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I agree that fork could very well be a replacement in which case personally I wouldn’t touch it. If derailleurs and crank original I would say it’s early 70s. Look online for catalog. Study pics of fork crowns . Usually these forks would have chrome tips so someone could have stripped the paint. Wait for something without so many unknowns unless you can get it dirt cheap.
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Old 03-18-22, 09:34 PM
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The fork may be original. It looks similar to the one on my late '72 Holdsworth Professional. I would guess the one you have some interest in is worth around $300 or so. I may be a bit prejudiced on the price since I am not a fan of Simplex 'plastic' derailleurs.

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Agree about the trepidation about the mostly Delrin plastic Simplex RD. It could be a ticking time bomb ready to asplode in the middle of a ride......
Consider budgeting for an all metal replacement if you purchase the bike.
The Stronglight model 105 crankset on the other hand was top notch, when it came to French cranksets of that time. A definite plus on the subject bike.

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Ha! Yeah, patience isn't one of my virtues

Thanks... The seller wants $500 and that sounded a little too steep...I think I'll pass... Thanks for all the responses!
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Originally Posted by Caliwild View Post
Ha! Yeah, patience isn't one of my virtues

Thanks... The seller wants $500 and that sounded a little too steep...I think I'll pass... Thanks for all the responses!
yeah I agree. Like I said I donít know much about them but they are nice machines and the guys here with them love them but it doesnít carry the panache of a known brand.
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Old 03-21-22, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
yeah I agree. Like I said I donít know much about them but they are nice machines and the guys here with them love them but it doesnít carry the panache of a known brand.
How is Holdsworth not a known brand?
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Originally Posted by Caliwild View Post
How much would you pay for the bike below?

If those are Campy Triomphe pedals, I would buy it just for that. If so, I would think about offering $150. If the high flange hubs are matching Record, that amount would be a no-brainer.

The problem with parting it out and selling the frameset separately is the aftermarket fork. So, I would be forced to rebuild and sell as a complete bike. The derailleurs have zero value for me in any capacity. I'd have to find another wheelset and derailleurs to complete the build. Might be a Campy seatpost and barcons as well. Anyway, if the frame is straight, it might be a really fun project.
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If those are Campy Triomphe pedals, I would buy it just for that. If so, I would think about offering $150. If the high flange hubs are matching Record, that amount would be a no-brainer.

The problem with parting it out and selling the frameset separately is the aftermarket fork. So, I would be forced to rebuild and sell as a complete bike. The derailleurs have zero value for me in any capacity. I'd have to find another wheelset and derailleurs to complete the build. Might be a Campy seatpost and barcons as well. Anyway, if the frame is straight, it might be a really fun project.
Thanks for the info! He was stuck at $500 so I passed...
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I would pass at $500 also I could see $200-300 if one really liked it with the parts it has. Not really mentioned for a rider one would likely be looking at a full wheel rebuild with different rims and tires tires.
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This is a really nice bicycle.

Keep your eye out for price reductions over time if the seller relists the bike after intervals of unsuccessful sale attempts.

$300-350 would be a good deal for you as a buyer.

Have you considered the additional refurbishment costs if you do not prefer to ride sew up tires?
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Originally Posted by Wileyone View Post
How is Holdsworth not a known brand?
Known is relative. The average bike buyer knows Trek, Schwinn, Cannondale and a couple of more brands. So lesser known brand to the average buyer can mean a good deal for you and me. Now $500 for that bike? I'd pass. But $350? Sure.

Picked up two lesser known brands this road trip, a Mikkelsen and a Mountain Goat.

If seller is marketing it to a local market (FB marketplace or C/L in the US), it could sit for a while. When I make offers, I always tell sellers," it's probably worth more, but I can only spend $xxx on a bike." I've gotten call backs a couple of weeks later on a few of them. Don't be insulting on such an offer (like offering $100). but stay within your budget.

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Old 03-25-22, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Known is relative. The average bike buyer knows Trek, Schwinn, Cannondale and a couple of more brands. So lesser known brand to the average buyer can mean a good deal for you and me. Now $500 for that bike? I'd pass. But $350? Sure.

Picked up two lesser known brands this road trip, a Mikkelsen and a Mountain Goat.

If seller is marketing it to a local market (FB marketplace or C/L in the US), it could sit for a while. When I make offers, I always tell sellers," it's probably worth more, but I can only spend $xxx on a bike." I've gotten call backs a couple of weeks later on a few of them. Don't be insulting on such an offer (like offering $100). but stay within your budget.
I guess it all boils down to geography. Where I grew up I didn't see many Schwinn's or Trek's.
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