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Old 04-23-22, 02:03 PM
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Slightly bent downtube

Hello all. I found what I THINK is a Peugeot PR10 or PX10. I notice that the down tube and top tube (evvvvvvver so slightly) are bent. From the way it's bent it would indicate it ran into something. Interestingly enough the fork doesn't seem bent at all.

I have researched and many have said to try to find a local bike shop that can try to do it. My question is how much does something like this run and is it possible to DIY?

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Old 04-23-22, 02:26 PM
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She smashed into a solid object.
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Old 04-23-22, 02:43 PM
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Where I live, no bike shop will TOUCH a crashed bike. Even just straightening a fork (much more minor job), they won't do.

I talked to the local shop owner about installing tubular tires. He told me his insurance for installing tubulars would cost him an additional $20,000 per year.

Your frame is crashed, and it's weakened on those two spots.

And perhaps the reason the fork looks fine is the PO straightened the fork.
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If you look close the the brazing has separated and there is a gap on the bottom front lug that some one has tried to hide by re-pinstriping the lugs so this frame is pretty much toast.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
Where I live, no bike shop will TOUCH a crashed bike. Even just straightening a fork (much more minor job), they won't do.

I talked to the local shop owner about installing tubular tires. He told me his insurance for installing tubulars would cost him an additional $20,000 per year.

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I didnít realize insurance companies broke things down that far.
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Old 04-23-22, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I didnít realize insurance companies broke things down that far.
I feel like that's a pretty common excuse thats used when the shop no longer feels like performing a particular service. Shop owner can discontinue it, and they're not the bad guy.
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Thanks for the responses. I'll keep the stronglight and parts and toss the frame.
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Had a crashed Bianchi that looked similar, PO thought he could fix it with a new fork. I took it to Yellow Jersey, no problem for them. Not cheap though, you better love the bike, just north of 700 bucks. Of course that includes paint, and decals. Now one of my favorite rides.
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If you are lucky, have the proper tools and the know how, it is possible to straighten a frame. That said, unless the frame is worthy (ie - high end and/or rare) I would not waste my time or take the chance. This mid sixties Peugeot PX10 looked repairable and I decided to try to straighten it out. I think that I got lucky and the repair seemed to work out pretty good. I had to borrow the necessary frame tools from a local bike shop to effect the repair...


I was quite happy with the result and the bike rode like it was on rails...
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Stone age bent frame tricks or " How to fix em on the cheap!"
See post 12 for a bit more insight......Bicycle frames are a lot stronger than we realize.....frames with much more damage have been repaired and put back into service. While not an ideal situation, unless the tube is cracked (not just paint) I would not scrap the frame but ride it and keep an eye on it.
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You can always try this method - whaddaya got to lose?
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Have you ever had a hankering to try your hand at painting a frame, or trying lug lining or pin striping? If so, now you have the perfect test bed for making rookie mistakes and honing your skills.
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I'd put some butter and jelly on it.
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Originally Posted by nesteel View Post
I feel like that's a pretty common excuse thats used when the shop no longer feels like performing a particular service. Shop owner can discontinue it, and they're not the bad guy.
I would agree but the shop owner was a good friend of mine. I think it was more along the lines of his insurance agent going over a checklist of what he couldn't do to get the lowest rate:

Frame repair, nope. Tubular tire install, nope. Etc. Want to do everything on this list? Sure, I can get you a policy for $2,000 a month more. Might have not singled out tubulars. John died of a massive stroke, so I can't check back for more detail now.


Having been in the factory management business, we routinely had insurance inspections, and they would give a long list of things we couldn't do without getting a more expensive policy. So they didn't forbid it but made it cost prohibitive.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I didnít realize insurance companies broke things down that far.
Makes for a good excuse.
That said, there are interesting exclusions in many liability policies.
Often not written specifically, a shop cannot remove CPSC safety equipment, government mandated stuff.
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
I would agree but the shop owner was a good friend of mine. I think it was more along the lines of his insurance agent going over a checklist of what he couldn't do to get the lowest rate:

Frame repair, nope. Tubular tire install, nope. Etc. Want to do everything on this list? Sure, I can get you a policy for $2,000 a month more. Might have not singled out tubulars. John died of a massive stroke, so I can't check back for more detail now.


Having been in the factory management business, we routinely had insurance inspections, and they would give a long list of things we couldn't do without getting a more expensive policy. So they didn't forbid it but made it cost prohibitive.
Move away from the "good hands" people.
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Don't toss the frame. I picked up a PX-!0 with extreme paint issues and after stripping it, found it had been crashed. I took it to my LBS Guy who has all the racks and fixtures and after inspection told me that it had been straightened already and was a good job. I enquired about durability/strength etc and he then told me that it was over built to begin with and post crash and straightening, was at 95%. I was happy that the front end was shortened some and trail increased.
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