I just found this Coppi. No idea of its value.
02-04-23, 03:21 PM
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I just found this Coppi. No idea of its value.
It had Shimano 105 components on it. Those had to go. What a frame in Fork like this worth?
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02-04-23, 03:30 PM
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clearly one of the Masciaghi products as opposed to the Fiorelli lineage
Produzione Cicli F.lli Masciaghi, Coppi, Girardengo, Mash Form, Freyus, Gloria, Henry Hogan, Easy Life
"in general" if they say "Fausto" they are Masciaghi
if they say "Coppi" only they are Fiorelli
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clearly one of the Masciaghi products as opposed to the Fiorelli lineage
Produzione Cicli F.lli Masciaghi, Coppi, Girardengo, Mash Form, Freyus, Gloria, Henry Hogan, Easy Life
"in general" if they say "Fausto" they are Masciaghi
if they say "Coppi" only they are Fiorelli
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Well.....using mine as a reference I'd put yours at a couple/few hundred at best. That's assuming it is Neuron tubing, I can't see enough of the label to tell. Mine came from overseas and was bought on Ebay. It is not mint but came in excellent shape with a headset and BB. It's Neuron tubing but every tube is shaped and as you can see oversized. Fork blades are shaped into a triangle, the headtube is pointed, the top tube is oval, the downtube is teardrop shaped, etc. It's also got those lowered seat stays that I think were outlawed later.
I also stumbled on a few NOS frames like that in various tubeset, both aluminum and steel. They were in the $400 range if I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
Well.....using mine as a reference I'd put yours at a couple/few hundred at best. That's assuming it is Neuron tubing, I can't see enough of the label to tell. Mine came from overseas and was bought on Ebay. It is not mint but came in excellent shape with a headset and BB. It's Neuron tubing but every tube is shaped and as you can see oversized. Fork blades are shaped into a triangle, the headtube is pointed, the top tube is oval, the downtube is teardrop shaped, etc. It's also got those lowered seat stays that I think were outlawed later.
I also stumbled on a few NOS frames like that in various tubeset, both aluminum and steel. They were in the $400 range if I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by georges1
Intresting frame this Coppi, I think that I will look for one on Ebay and if I find one with the Genius probably buy it, thanks for giving me ideas
Other than the catalog page that shows my model I haven't seen one with those crazy shaped tubes, especially the head tube as I searched around. The bike is really fast and fun to ride and surprisingly not harsh on rough roads.
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That might be nice riding bike (unknown, but probable) , but is cosmetically a bit challenged -- paint chips, poor decals, and what looks like the start of chrome issues. Selling locally in a good market? I'd start at $350 -- on eBay maybe start at $450 obo and be prepared to accept a fair bit less if you actually want to sell it.
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Gosh, how is this found? Was it a dumpster dive? or left out for curbside pickup? Was this Craigslist? Did you check to see it is stolen? Was it at a co-op? Was it at a local bike store? eBay? Dents? Dings? Is the spacing correct? Is the alignment good?
Did you buy it? Sounds like it's in your possession. Are you going to try and sell?
Oh just kidding dude, it all makes a difference on value. The Coppi is just a little newer than my type of buy.
Did you buy it? Sounds like it's in your possession. Are you going to try and sell?
Oh just kidding dude, it all makes a difference on value. The Coppi is just a little newer than my type of buy.
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These OS tubed early 90's top end bikes seem to have a surprisingly nice ride quality very stiff and solid but not harsh. The 7 series OS chro-mo is is about as good as it gets for tube sets.
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Just found this pic here on the forum in the SS/FG portion of the site. Similar paint scheme, different frame but the forks looks very close.
02-06-23, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
The guy I bought the Motta from had two similar Coppi's listed for sale. I can shoot you his POC stuff when I get home.
Other than the catalog page that shows my model I haven't seen one with those crazy shaped tubes, especially the head tube as I searched around. The bike is really fast and fun to ride and surprisingly not harsh on rough roads.
Other than the catalog page that shows my model I haven't seen one with those crazy shaped tubes, especially the head tube as I searched around. The bike is really fast and fun to ride and surprisingly not harsh on rough roads.
Generally the Neuron tubeset was handbrazed with lugs,your Coppi is something rare regarding aero tubes in the Neuron tubeset series, very nice bike and quite a rare frame .Mine has few paint chips but is in very good condition otherwise,couldn't let it pass. The Neuron tubing was a high end Columbus tubing and well known for its great comfort.
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
I had one with Genius tubing. It suffered catastrophic frame failure.
I am interested to know what happened. Did it break at a specific point? I am aware that the genius tubing had a flaw, for instance it wasn't generally recommended for too heavy riders, also with bottom brackets,it was highly advised to grease it a lot before installing a new one and not overtighten it.Hoping that I won't have with this nightmare. Maybe there are bikeforumers who have their Genius framed Coppis riding during all these years, I am interested to hear their testimonies. Back in the days,most of the Genius frames for race bikes were mostly tig welded and fillet brazed and rarer were the brazed lugged Genius frames. Also Columbus made butted ends on Genius shorter, so the whole set was the first one strictly designed for TiG welding but different tubes were available for brazing with lugs and fillet brazing.A wide selection of tube thicknesses and diameters allowed Genius tubing to be used in many different types of frame types from columbus steel tubing.
Besides Coppi,brands like Bianchi,Cascarsi, Olmo, Viemme, Peugeot, Casati, Motobecane, Gitane,Chesini, Tomasinni and Daccordi to name a few brands used that tubing.
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02-07-23, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66
Gosh, how is this found? Was it a dumpster dive? or left out for curbside pickup? Was this Craigslist? Did you check to see it is stolen? Was it at a co-op? Was it at a local bike store? eBay? Dents? Dings? Is the spacing correct? Is the alignment good?
Did you buy it? Sounds like it's in your possession. Are you going to try and sell?
Oh just kidding dude, it all makes a difference on value. The Coppi is just a little newer than my type of buy.
Did you buy it? Sounds like it's in your possession. Are you going to try and sell?
Oh just kidding dude, it all makes a difference on value. The Coppi is just a little newer than my type of buy.
I have an allergy for hiding cables in the top tube. I thought maybe with shots and pills and local honey I can overcome it, but in the end I decided it wasn’t worth it.
if anybody else is interested, this is available for sale at the co-op in Columbia Missouri.
I would tell you the price, but they kept asking me to make an offer. That’s why I was looking for guidance from you good people.
