Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

Mondonico Diamond, unknown year

Old 02-25-23, 08:12 AM
  #1  
jbz255 
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
jbz255's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 89

Bikes: 1986 Trek 760, 1990 Trek 420, 2020 REI ADV 1.1, 2017 REI ADV 3.1, 1995 Trek 930 Singletrack, 2003 LeMond Arrivee

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 31 Posts
Mondonico Diamond, unknown year

Bought a Mondonico Diamond on FB Marketplace for a friend (who now doesn't want it) a couple months back, and haven't been able to find too much information regarding the frame/serial number searching online. Hoping to both pinpoint the year of manufacture, and figure out a FMV for either the complete bike or just the frameset. Although I've been using Bike Forums as a tool for research and learning, this is my first time actually posting, so I cannot directly post images yet. I have uploaded pictures of the bike in my albums, as I have previously read that this is the best alternative way for others to view the pictures needed.
From my research online, the installed components are as follows (please correct me if any of these are not right):
  • Mavic 631 "StarFish" 53/42 crankset- Mavic 610 URD bottom bracket
  • Shimano 6401 FD/RD/shifters
  • Shimano 6402 rear hub
  • Shimano CS-HG90 12-23 8 speed cassette
  • Campagnolo Chorus Monoplaner C051/C052 brakes
  • Mavic 500 RD (550 RD?) front hub
  • Mavic 305 headset
  • Modolo Equipe handlebars
  • Modolo Q-Even 120mm stem.
Frame is Columbus SPX tubing with Campagnolo dropouts, fork has Columbus "Foderi Laminati" decals, and has "6W09" (or "60M9"?) stamped on both the underside of the bottom bracket shell and the fork steerer, I'm assuming that is the serial number. The seat tube (center-to-center) measures 60cm, with the top tube measuring 58cm (center-to-center as well), so I wasn't sure if perhaps the 60 in the serial was in reference to the frame size? Based on the periods that those particular components were around, and also what appears to be a date on the crankset, I'm guessing that the bike is around late 80's, but hoping someone more knowledgeable can help pinpoint what year it was made. I've been working on bikes as a hobby for only a couple years now, and up until now I've always been able to pinpoint information about a bike based on color schemes, components, etc., but those have all been mass produced bicycles. If anyone out there can offer any more knowledge about this bike, it is greatly appreciated!
jbz255 is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 08:18 AM
  #2  
TugaDude
Senior Member
 
TugaDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 565 Post(s)
Liked 590 Times in 432 Posts
TugaDude is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 08:20 AM
  #3  
TugaDude
Senior Member
 
TugaDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 565 Post(s)
Liked 590 Times in 432 Posts
TugaDude is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 08:22 AM
  #4  
TugaDude
Senior Member
 
TugaDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,462
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 565 Post(s)
Liked 590 Times in 432 Posts
Nice frame with mismatched components but all are of excellent quality. Wonder why the friend didn't want it after all?

Best way to make money would be to part it out. Since there is no "theme" to the brand of components really, I guess that isn't a big deal here.

Then someone could buy the frame at a reasonable price and build it up with their own group, maybe even modern components such as brifters, etc.

Would make a good rider I'm sure.
TugaDude is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 10:05 AM
  #5  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,339

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2756 Post(s)
Liked 2,355 Times in 1,279 Posts
Good Morning and welcome to the forums. That is a beautiful bike. Mondonico was imported by a smaller company called Torelli and if memory serves they mostly sold framesets and maybe a 'kit' or two, but for a bike that is around 30 years old who's to say how it got in this state, yeah I'd say this probably from rioth around 89ish for the frame and the most of components seem to be from that era too.

The value would be pretty much what you paid for it, but as stated if you want to maximize you investment part it out and be willing to ship.


Originally Posted by jbz255
Bought a Mondonico Diamond on FB Marketplace for a friend (who now doesn't want it) a couple months back, and haven't been able to find too much information regarding the frame/serial number searching online. Hoping to both pinpoint the year of manufacture, and figure out a FMV for either the complete bike or just the frameset. Although I've been using Bike Forums as a tool for research and learning, this is my first time actually posting, so I cannot directly post images yet. I have uploaded pictures of the bike in my albums, as I have previously read that this is the best alternative way for others to view the pictures needed.
From my research online, the installed components are as follows (please correct me if any of these are not right):
  • Mavic 631 "StarFish" 53/42 crankset- Mavic 610 URD bottom bracket
  • Shimano 6401 FD/RD/shifters
  • Shimano 6402 rear hub
  • Shimano CS-HG90 12-23 8 speed cassette
  • Campagnolo Chorus Monoplaner C051/C052 brakes
  • Mavic 500 RD (550 RD?) front hub
  • Mavic 305 headset
  • Modolo Equipe handlebars
  • Modolo Q-Even 120mm stem.
Frame is Columbus SPX tubing with Campagnolo dropouts, fork has Columbus "Foderi Laminati" decals, and has "6W09" (or "60M9"?) stamped on both the underside of the bottom bracket shell and the fork steerer, I'm assuming that is the serial number. The seat tube (center-to-center) measures 60cm, with the top tube measuring 58cm (center-to-center as well), so I wasn't sure if perhaps the 60 in the serial was in reference to the frame size? Based on the periods that those particular components were around, and also what appears to be a date on the crankset, I'm guessing that the bike is around late 80's, but hoping someone more knowledgeable can help pinpoint what year it was made. I've been working on bikes as a hobby for only a couple years now, and up until now I've always been able to pinpoint information about a bike based on color schemes, components, etc., but those have all been mass produced bicycles. If anyone out there can offer any more knowledge about this bike, it is greatly appreciated!
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 10:54 AM
  #6  
Steel1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 106
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Liked 68 Times in 30 Posts
Thats a beautiful bike, and very good quality. I believe the bottom bracket marking 60=size, 9=1989. I think the M= Mondonico made, and is the same format used on bikes he made and sold to be badged as Torelli (the higher end models) and Masi.
Steel1 is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 11:06 AM
  #7  
jbz255 
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
jbz255's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 89

Bikes: 1986 Trek 760, 1990 Trek 420, 2020 REI ADV 1.1, 2017 REI ADV 3.1, 1995 Trek 930 Singletrack, 2003 LeMond Arrivee

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 31 Posts
So the friend that I picked this up for, who is new to road cycling, decided that they wanted something more modern/recent. I tried explaining that a bike like this, that also fits well, isn't something you find often around here. Not really a big deal on my part, since I only paid $100 for the bike, and have only invested in new handlebar tape, a new tire, a new chain, and time spent disassembling, cleaning, and reassembling. If I were to part it out, I am wondering if I should keep the bottom bracket and crankset as part of the frameset, since the bottom bracket shell has been modified for that Mavic bottom bracket, and also due to the crankset being matched to that bottom bracket (neither of them are either ISO or JIS from my understanding).

Last edited by jbz255; 02-25-23 at 11:16 AM.
jbz255 is offline  
Old 02-25-23, 12:48 PM
  #8  
JulesCW 
Full Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Upper third of the central USA
Posts: 473

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Liked 424 Times in 214 Posts
Originally Posted by jbz255
So the friend that I picked this up for, who is new to road cycling, decided that they wanted something more modern/recent. I tried explaining that a bike like this, that also fits well, isn't something you find often around here. Not really a big deal on my part, since I only paid $100 for the bike, and have only invested in new handlebar tape, a new tire, a new chain, and time spent disassembling, cleaning, and reassembling. If I were to part it out, I am wondering if I should keep the bottom bracket and crankset as part of the frameset, since the bottom bracket shell has been modified for that Mavic bottom bracket, and also due to the crankset being matched to that bottom bracket (neither of them are either ISO or JIS from my understanding).

You paid $100 for this? That's a steal!

Yes, I'd sell the frame with the bb and crankset as it has been modified for the Mavic BB -- I'd also consider offering the wheelset with frame/fork ,bb, headset, and crankset as a package. Parting this thing out and selling on the forums here (lower sale prices, only fee is paid membership, no real hassles out side of shipping) or selling on FB (no packing and shipping hassles, but flakes galore!) or on eBay (max price potential, but lots of fees and shipping hassles, plus flakes!) will net you multiples of your purchase price.

EDIT -- I just realized the wheels are a mismatch set, so no, not part of a package.
JulesCW is offline  
Old 02-26-23, 08:16 AM
  #9  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 29,339

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 180 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2756 Post(s)
Liked 2,355 Times in 1,279 Posts
Originally Posted by jbz255
So the friend that I picked this up for, who is new to road cycling, decided that they wanted something more modern/recent. I tried explaining that a bike like this, that also fits well, isn't something you find often around here. Not really a big deal on my part, since I only paid $100 for the bike, and have only invested in new handlebar tape, a new tire, a new chain, and time spent disassembling, cleaning, and reassembling. If I were to part it out, I am wondering if I should keep the bottom bracket and crankset as part of the frameset, since the bottom bracket shell has been modified for that Mavic bottom bracket, and also due to the crankset being matched to that bottom bracket (neither of them are either ISO or JIS from my understanding).
I need another bike like a like a need a another hole in my head but unless you're interested in getting rich off this I might be interested in the frame/fork and brake calipers
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 02-26-23, 02:48 PM
  #10  
jbz255 
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
jbz255's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 89

Bikes: 1986 Trek 760, 1990 Trek 420, 2020 REI ADV 1.1, 2017 REI ADV 3.1, 1995 Trek 930 Singletrack, 2003 LeMond Arrivee

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 31 Posts
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
I need another bike like a like a need a another hole in my head but unless you're interested in getting rich off this I might be interested in the frame/fork and brake calipers
Currently have the whole bike listed locally; if it doesn't see any interest this week I can let you know. If I do sell the frameset, I am debating on whether or not I'd want to hold on to the brake calipers for a future project.
jbz255 is offline  
Old 02-28-23, 09:22 AM
  #11  
georges1
Steel is real
 
georges1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Not far from Paris
Posts: 1,259

Bikes: 1992Giant Tourer,1992MeridaAlbon,1996Scapin,1997KonaKilaueua,1993Peugeot Prestige,1991RaleighTeamZ(to be upgraded),1998 Jamis Dragon(to be built),1992CTWallis(to be built),1998VettaTeam(to be built),1995Coppi(to be built),1993Grandis(to be built)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 348 Post(s)
Liked 488 Times in 312 Posts
Nice bike and nice lugged frame congrats on the purchase
georges1 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.