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Old 03-05-23, 01:50 PM
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Curious about Shimano 6400 value

Just curious about what you all think. Pedals are near worthless but the rest...? All 6400 series, except the BL-6403 levers. I just noticed mismatched shifters.



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As a group? Not nearly as much as you'd get parting it out.
That's kinda the "mEh" group.
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Does not look like much value there. Piecing it out could fetch over a hundred bucks.
But will an eBayer want to spend ten dollars on a rear derailleur with another eight for shipping Priority Mail?
You might get more for those 7700 chainrings by pulling those off the cranks.
Just one man's opinion. Your mileage may vary. lol
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On these pages I’d think $100 +/- $20. And as others have noted, more as individual pieces.
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr View Post
Does not look like much value there. Piecing it out could fetch over a hundred bucks.
But will an eBayer want to spend ten dollars on a rear derailleur with another eight for shipping Priority Mail?
You might get more for those 7700 chainrings by pulling those off the cranks.
Just one man's opinion. Your mileage may vary. lol
I don't do ebay (yet), but I didn't even notice the chainring difference...haha
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Old 03-05-23, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by plonz View Post
On these pages I’d think $100 +/- $20. And as others have noted, more as individual pieces.
Yeah, I was looking at pricing the group at $140 shipped here, but since my other stuff does not seem to be selling thought I'd actually see what y'all thought.

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While cleaned up nice there there rough spots on the gears and chain rings as a set with no BB, Heasset, hubs, stem or seat post. As Said maybe hundred here less net on ebay sorry but the current market sucks for new sellers on used parts.

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Tricolor/Ultegra is great stuff. Legendary reliability. Properly maintained,it will last a lifetime.
The early 7 speed version you have here with single pivot brakes is not highly sought after, even in excellent cosmetic condition.

Because the group was positioned by Shimano to OEM on LOTS of midpriced bikes, owners did not always take very good care of them. Which means there’s a lot of Tricolor out there of all types and flavors that look like they’ve been dragged through a cornfield behind a pickup truck. While super reliable, those unsightly bits don’t sell for very much but make excellent donations to the local co-op.
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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
Tricolor/Ultegra is great stuff. Legendary reliability. Properly maintained,it will last a lifetime.
The early 7 speed version you have here with single pivot brakes is not highly sought after, even in excellent cosmetic condition.

Because the group was positioned by Shimano to OEM on LOTS of midpriced bikes, owners did not always take very good care of them. Which means there’s a lot of Tricolor out there of all types and flavors that look like they’ve been dragged through a cornfield behind a pickup truck. While super reliable, those unsightly bits don’t sell for very much but make excellent donations to the local co-op.
Meh, they're ok parts, I certainly wouldn't call it legendary with respect to reliability, in my honest opinion. All Shimano, even AX/EX if properly taken care of will reliably do their job until simply worn out.

I wonder when "tricolor" became a name for Shimano 600. I've never heard it called that until just recently, and mainly on this forum. It does give it a bit of cachet it probably doesn't deserve. Just my honest opinion having many years working on Shimano.
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I get the feeling the Shimano stuff gets a little more love in Europe.
I noticed it with the Golden Arrow groupset here earlier.

And it's been called Tricolor(e) here for as long as I can remember.
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Originally Posted by Mackers View Post
I get the feeling the Shimano stuff gets a little more love in Europe.
I noticed it with the Golden Arrow groupset here earlier.

And it's been called Tricolor(e) here for as long as I can remember.
Interesting. I grew up starting with DA AX/EX up to 7800, and never heard it called Tricolor until I started on this forum. I guess it is a BF thing.
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Thanks all! So the 6408 8 speed is the more desireable stuff...makes sense since it saw the addition of the brifters to the line.

Fortunately, I don’t “need” to sell anything, so I could simply use it for bike frames I need to move to a new home!
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Interesting. I grew up starting with DA AX/EX up to 7800, and never heard it called Tricolor until I started on this forum. I guess it is a BF thing.
I meant "here" as in Europe, not this forum.
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Originally Posted by Mackers View Post
I meant "here" as in Europe, not this forum.
Good point. Tricolor was VERY popular in Europe; for example it was spec'd on many Eddy Merckx bikes. There's even a non-aero 6400 SLR brake lever set that was primarily aimed at the Euro market.
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Tri-Colour is excellent stuff, and your calipers are single-pivot early ones which C&Vers like.
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Tri-Colour is excellent stuff, and your calipers are single-pivot early ones which C&Vers like.
Yeah, I think things are slowing in the vintage market. I don’t mind selling a frame with the group either (local bike sale). No hurry and don’t need to sell.

just wondered what y’all think of as value.
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