NOS 1985 Bianchi F+F model unknown
03-26-23, 04:23 PM
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
NOS 1985 Bianchi F+F model unknown
I have a NOS 1985 Bianchi frameset. The bb is stamped on the bottom, 337 on one side and C56 on the other. Any help would be appreciated and I’ll upload all the pics i can.
03-26-23, 08:28 PM
#2
Friendship is Magic
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 21,797
Bikes: old ones
Mentioned: 300 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24785 Post(s)
Liked 8,575 Times
in
5,984 Posts
.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
__________________
03-26-23, 08:36 PM
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 13,286
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3837 Post(s)
Liked 2,645 Times
in
1,578 Posts
That is a very clean looking frame.
03-27-23, 04:28 AM
#4
Newbie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by 3alarmer
.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
...you can look at the Bianchi catalogs for the 1980's at the links in the catalogs thread, here:
The Official Vintage Bicycle Manufacturer Catalog List w/Links - Bike Forums
There's at least one link to 1985, if you're sure on the dating. I've never seen a Bianchi from the 1980's that was sold as a bare frame.
I'm sure it's possible, but all I've ever seen from the '80's were sold as complete bikes. Bare frames usually came from other Italian makers. in my somewhat limited experience.
I haven’t been able to find just a frame and fork in any of the scans either and trust me I’ve been looking. The bb shell has 85 cast into so I think calling it 1985 is a safe bet.
03-27-23, 08:00 AM
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,976
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 945 Post(s)
Liked 1,317 Times
in
752 Posts
That one is one of the better of the models of its day. I say because it has chrome, stay and forks and it has the fd braze on. I had a lower end of that color Cromor or Matrix tubing this was.
I think what I had was '86
I think what I had was '86
03-27-23, 09:35 AM
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,086
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 1,172 Times
in
469 Posts
The frame looks very good condition yet I wouldn't consider it NOS. Does look to have been a complete bike at some point that someone tore down without riding much or at all kinda interesting.
03-27-23, 10:03 AM
#7
Newbie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by zukahn1
The frame looks very good condition yet I wouldn't consider it NOS. Does look to have been a complete bike at some point that someone tore down without riding much or at all kinda interesting.
Likes For Kevin537:
03-27-23, 12:01 PM
#8
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,449
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 561 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times
in
430 Posts
It is in great condition and whether it is NOS with shop wear or previously built really doesn't matter much in my opinion. I also like the color. I know Celeste is all the rage but this color really pops in my opinion.
Regarding value, all I can say is the seller will likely get less than I think it is worth.
Regarding value, all I can say is the seller will likely get less than I think it is worth.
03-27-23, 02:47 PM
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,373
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 88 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1343 Post(s)
Liked 2,755 Times
in
923 Posts
Someone really ought to page @Bianchigirll for her take on this.
Brent
Brent
__________________
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
03-27-23, 02:59 PM
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 3,968
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1627 Post(s)
Liked 1,706 Times
in
980 Posts
Might have been one of the frames Bianchi kept in stock for warranty replacements and later sold off when newer frame models were introduced.
03-27-23, 05:07 PM
#11
Newbie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Trakhak
Might have been one of the frames Bianchi kept in stock for warranty replacements and later sold off when newer frame models were introduced.
went unbuilt?
03-28-23, 10:11 AM
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,152
Mentioned: 101 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1491 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 627 Times
in
415 Posts
Columbus SL,....... Chrome at fork and both rear stays,
It's a pretty good one, IYAM.....
The only thing missing on the Bianchi fan checklist is the Celeste color.
But it doesn't hurt to be different from the crowd, once in a while....
It's a pretty good one, IYAM.....
The only thing missing on the Bianchi fan checklist is the Celeste color.
But it doesn't hurt to be different from the crowd, once in a while....
__________________
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
72 Line Seeker
83 Davidson Signature
84 Peugeot PSV
84 Peugeot PY10FC
84 Gitane Tour de France.
85 Vitus Plus Carbone 7
86 ALAN Record Carbonio
86 Medici Aerodynamic (Project)
88 Pinarello Montello
89 Bottecchia Professional Chorus SL
95 Trek 5500 OCLV (Project)
Likes For Chombi1:
03-28-23, 12:49 PM
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,449
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 561 Post(s)
Liked 587 Times
in
430 Posts
Originally Posted by Kevin537
looking at thing’s further it looks like the chrome under the fork crown isn’t up to standards for Bianchi. Maybe this is why this frameset
went unbuilt?
went unbuilt?
03-29-23, 01:55 AM
#14
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,033
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1937 Post(s)
Liked 2,157 Times
in
1,429 Posts
That is an impressive Bianchi. All of the embossments are cool. Are the seat stay caps stickered or engraved?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course), 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba...I...am...done....
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course), 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba...I...am...done....
03-29-23, 04:33 AM
#15
Newbie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by jdawginsc
That is an impressive Bianchi. All of the embossments are cool. Are the seat stay caps stickered or engraved?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
Is this a possible alternate market Bianchi?
03-29-23, 04:15 PM
#16
Newbie
Thread Starter
I’ve been through all the catalogs and other scans I can find online and can’t find anything exactly matching this set. Is it possible that it was some sort of team frame or something? I’ve heard Bianchigirll is the authority on this stuff how do we send the beacon out to her lol.
03-30-23, 11:07 AM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,086
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 1,172 Times
in
469 Posts
While near perfect and likely %100 original IMHO the robins egg blue is bit unique I can't really say I have seen this paint on another bike.
03-31-23, 08:19 AM
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,224
Bikes: '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1474 Post(s)
Liked 1,865 Times
in
943 Posts
Reparto Corsa indicates a top line frame set as that build is in a [size=13px]separate[/size] building specifically for custom and top end frame builds.
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Last edited by SJX426; 03-31-23 at 08:22 AM.
03-31-23, 10:21 AM
#20
Newbie
Thread Starter
I’m having a hardtime parting with this one. I think I might just look at it for awhile before I sell it but something like this definitely needs to find its way back on the road. I’ll get some better pics this afternoon when I get home.
03-31-23, 12:38 PM
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fairplay Co
Posts: 9,086
Bikes: Current 79 Nishiki Custum Sport, Jeunet 620, notable previous bikes P.K. Ripper loop tail, Kawahara Laser Lite, Paramount Track full chrome, Raliegh Internatioanl, Motobecan Super Mirage. 59 Crown royak 3 speed
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 677 Post(s)
Liked 1,172 Times
in
469 Posts
Originally Posted by bbbob
I remember selling those when I was a Bianchi dealer. Only a few came into the US, all from Reparto Corsa, so threey are top line frames. Nobody could explain the color at the time, so likely just a whimsical choice or possibly a team color that were leftovers.
03-31-23, 04:23 PM
#23
Newbie
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by SJX426
Reparto Corsa indicates a top line frame set as that build is in a [size=13px]separate[/size] building specifically for custom and top end frame builds.
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
If built, I would have expected the cable to have removed some of the paint in the guides of the BB shell.
The HS looks like Super Record.
Nice find! I find it exceptional.
@Kevin537 How about a pic of the seat cluster, especially the stay caps?
Likes For Kevin537:
04-01-23, 05:52 AM
#24
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,033
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1937 Post(s)
Liked 2,157 Times
in
1,429 Posts
Honestly, this might be the coolest 80s Bianchi I have ever seen.
(1) The bottom bracket shell is pure art
(2) Chrome fork crown sculpted
(3) Love the stay caps
Is it around 53cm? Bianchis are tough to estimate. The head tubes are longer for their sizes...
(1) The bottom bracket shell is pure art
(2) Chrome fork crown sculpted
(3) Love the stay caps
Is it around 53cm? Bianchis are tough to estimate. The head tubes are longer for their sizes...
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course), 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba...I...am...done....
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course), 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba...I...am...done....
04-01-23, 01:34 PM
#25
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ontario
Posts: 111
Bikes: Road: 1972 Raleigh Competition,1989 Marinoni, 1990 Limongi. MTN: 1990 GT Team Avalanche, 1991 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, GT Team RTS , Rocky Mountain MSL 50 Element, CCM fat bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times
in
37 Posts
Beautiful bike. It looks like the Giro model in the 1985 catalog
1985 Bianchi catalog
This article about the Celeste or black Bianchi x4 shows the many of the same features. Is the tubing on your bike SLX with rifling inside the tubes at the bottom bracket?
1985 Bianchi catalog
This article about the Celeste or black Bianchi x4 shows the many of the same features. Is the tubing on your bike SLX with rifling inside the tubes at the bottom bracket?
Last edited by Paul Waque; 04-01-23 at 01:51 PM. Reason: added xr4 article link
