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Old 07-10-23, 04:08 PM
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Vintage Collection - All High End

I am hoping to help the local chapter of Bicycles for Humanity find new homes for a Richey, a Holdsworth Professional, a Marinoni Special, a Vetter, a Norco Terri something or other, and some really nice vintage stuff. I am hoping to find a single buyer and make the lot purchase worth his and the seller's worthwhile. These bikes are all top dogs in just about anybody's kennel (my opinion). Anyway, a brief glimpse which I will follow up with more detailed pictures, as soon as I can get to the bikes again. Me, I really, really, really like the Marinoni...


The Richey blows my kilt up too...


As does the Holdsworth Professional...


Not sure about this one (without rear wheel), a Vetter I believe...


The last two are a time trials bike and a Norco with a small front wheel (not sure what to call this style - Terri sort of rings a bell)...


Lots on my plate right now but this might prove to be a nice distraction from cabin life. No better pictures until next week when I go to the city. In the meantime, please know that I am trying to determine individual prices and then a price for the whole works...
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I've been flipping bikes since 1912. The only way to make money is to pay nothing, part everything out on ebay, and then use the frames to make wrought iron fences and the forks to make garden rakes. I wouldn't pay more than $5 for the lot. The market is soft right now, and you've got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.

Am I doing this right?

Good luck with the charitable endeavor.
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Wow! Flipping bikes for the last 110 years. Thank you for your comments albrt.
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$5 for the whole lot? Lol. The market ain't that soft.

BTW, I love the color of the Marinoni.
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The Ritchey is, IMO, the pick of the litter; the Holdsworth comes in 2d. You might want to consider selling those separately as they will get top dollar and then selling the rest as a package deal.
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I agree about the Marinoni, and it's my size. D'oh.
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You haven't mentioned how the nonprofit wants to sell these. Is it local only? Local with driving halfway to meet someone? Boxing and shipping?

Local only will only support whatever your local market wants to pay. If your local market doesn't want to pay much, adding more bikes to the sale won't help matters.

Local with halfway meetup might snag a few buyers who wouldn't want to make the drive otherwise. Advertise in adjacent areas to where you live.

If the nonprofit is willing to box and ship, even better. But that's the most amount of work. Someone there willing to do it?

My guess for the most return? Ritchey.
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Dang, love that perforated Turbo on the purple and red bike with no rear wheel!
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Kidding aside, I'd love to have a variety of bikes like this at the co-op here in Phoenix. Seems like a couple hundred bucks each would be the floor if you could find the right buyers, and some of them much more. No idea what the market is like in Thunder Bay, though.
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More pictures of the Ritchey?
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Randy

FWIW I was just at the Canadian Vintage Bike Show (which is now in Burford, not Brantford).

Dismal showing, still not half the numbers from pre-Covid. I saw bikes that no one looked at, but even a year ago would have sold instantly. There was a Raleigh International that I craved but had no room for, no takers at $250 Canadian! One guy has a Casati frame set that he brought and offered for $500 with no interest. That Casati had panto-graphed shifters as well.

I know you have done very well in the past with finding buyers but finding a bulk buyer might be work in this new world.

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The TT is my favorite, and would be on my list.........
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I wish it had a fork......
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All the years I have been digging, and finding bikes I have never had/found a purple bike........
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Patience, my fellow forum members. I am, believe me, just as interested in the bikes but...

My wife fell and broke her arm and damaged her hip. That is job one right now. I have to drive 100 miles to get to and from the bikes. I hope to get pictures and detailed information on Monday, when my wife gets a more permanent cast for her arm. So, by Tuesday, I will attempt to have pictures up and ready for viewing.

These bikes do not belong to B4H. One of the B4H guys brought them in, on behalf of a recently widowed lady, to sell for her. My job is to determine value and see if I can find buyers. The bikes can be sold as a lot or sold separately. Again, need time to get this sorted out. As for $200 - I would pay that for the NOS Zeus rear derailleur alone, if I were buying.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Patience, my fellow forum members. I am, believe me, just as interested in the bikes but...

My wife fell and broke her arm and damaged her hip. That is job one right now. I have to drive 100 miles to get to and from the bikes. I hope to get pictures and detailed information on Monday, when my wife gets a more permanent cast for her arm. So, by Tuesday, I will attempt to have pictures up and ready for viewing.

These bikes do not belong to B4H. One of the B4H guys brought them in, on behalf of a recently widowed lady, to sell for her. My job is to determine value and see if I can find buyers. The bikes can be sold as a lot or sold separately. Again, need time to get this sorted out. As for $200 - I would pay that for the NOS Zeus rear derailleur alone, if I were buying.
Take good care of your wife! So sorry to hear about the fall. I pray she recovers quickly and completely. Bikes can, and should wait.
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Care for wife.

that h
Holdsworth has a nice look, sometimes they had long top tubes, appears about a 22.5 ctt I usually do not like silver bikes, this looks good, my guess 1972.
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I goofed, sort of. The bikes presented here were given to B4H to sell on behalf of a lady widowed by the fellow who owned the collection. What little I know about him is that he bought and rode top of the line stuff. Not sure, right now, but I think the Richey is full Suntour Superbe.

My job is to assign value to the bicycles. I know that I could be conflicted in interest but I will try to be 100% honest in my appraisal for what a bike is worth. I will also remind interested parties that shipping from Thunder Bay to just about anywhere can be costly. I will keep that in mind when suggesting to the bike sale facilitator estimated value. I have the facilator's phone number and hope to get in touch this evening. Perhaps pictures tomorrow.

Also, can anyone identify these stickers, found on the multi-colored frame? Or the pantograph on the stays brace? Any help with ID would be a bonus to help me figure out value. Thanks.





Also, not positive, but I believe the fork is available, just not installed???

There is also some vintage components - Brooks Pro, NOS Zeus rear derailleur (perhaps a take-off), and other odds and ends. These will all be up for grabs. This might be a bit of fun. Oh, ya

I love the Marinoni (already have two but what the heck)...
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I goofed, sort of. The bikes presented here were given to B4H to sell on behalf of a lady widowed by the fellow who owned the collection. What little I know about him is that he bought and rode top of the line stuff. Not sure, right now, but I think the Richey is full Suntour Superbe.

My job is to assign value to the bicycles. I know that I could be conflicted in interest but I will try to be 100% honest in my appraisal for what a bike is worth. I will also remind interested parties that shipping from Thunder Bay to just about anywhere can be costly. I will keep that in mind when suggesting to the bike sale facilitator estimated value. I have the facilator's phone number and hope to get in touch this evening. Perhaps pictures tomorrow.

Also, can anyone identify these stickers, found on the multi-colored frame? Or the pantograph on the stays brace? Any help with ID would be a bonus to help me figure out value. Thanks.





Also, not positive, but I believe the fork is available, just not installed???

There is also some vintage components - Brooks Pro, NOS Zeus rear derailleur (perhaps a take-off), and other odds and ends. These will all be up for grabs. This might be a bit of fun. Oh, ya

I love the Marinoni (already have two but what the heck)...
It may be a Cramerotti which was a house brand for La Bicicletta bike shop in Vancouver and Toronto. Made in Italy by contract builders. Same build quality and materials of the other Italian brands of the time just much less coffee shop cache.
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RICHEY...

This was the deceased rider's top dog. Though not positive, I believe it to be a mountain bike converted for touring. The bicycle looks to have been cared for with care and appears to be in great condition. Not my cup of tea, but for someone - Wow(my opinion, of course). The bike is sold as pictured, the front rack. Including the front rack would make it tough, if not impossible to fit into an acceptable container. I would like to know what value to place on the bicycle. The original handlebar is available also. Thanks.

Top Tube (c-c) = 57cm
Seat Tube (c-c) = 52cm
Stand Over Height = 79cm








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MARINONI...

I really like this bike! It was the owner's favorite ride and it looks to be very well maintained and used. Lots of Campagnolo components and all in nice shape. With the exception of the Richey, this is the nicest bike in his collection. The pictures, pretty much, speak for themselves. The original Marinoni fork is included with the bike. There is also a Rivendale handlebar bag included. The bike's measurements are as follows...

Seat Tube (c-c) = 55cm
Top Tube (c-c) = 55cm
Stand Over Height = 81cm








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HOLDSWORTH...

The Holdsworth if true vintage iron, in my opinion, and I would not hesitate to buy the bike myself. Anyway, a top of the line Professional in pretty darn nice shape (my opinion). The pictures speak for themselves - again, my opinion. The front basket is not necessarily included. Including it would dramatically increase the cost to ship. Reynolds 531 tube/fork set leads the list of sound frame features, including Campy drops. How much would this bike be worth in your area? Thanks.

The bike's measurements are...

Top Tube (c-c) = 56cm
Seat Tube (c-c) = 55.5cm
Stand Over Height (sorry forgot to get but probably around 81cm)








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NORCO...

This bicycle is a Canadian Made Norco "Lady Sport" presented in Terry configuration. I do not know much about the bike other than it has seen little use (according to lady selling the bikes). I cannot do much to help other than show pictures. I would like to know what this bike would be valued at in your area. Thanks.

The bike's measurements are...

Top Tube (c-c) = 48cm
Seat Tube (c-c) = 47cm
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CAMEROTTI...

The Camerotti is a time trial bicycle, according to the owner. Though disassembled, it does appear to be all there (rear wheel will be included). I really cannot comment much on the bicycle as I have little knowledge pertaining to time trial machines. With that in mind, the pictures are (hopefully) worth 1000 words each. I have no idea how to properly measure the bicycle but my guess is that it will fit someone who fits the other bikes presented (Holdsworth, Richey, Marinoni - but not the Norco). As pictured, plus rear wheel, what value would you place on this bike in your area? Thanks...




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Any more pictures of the red, white, and green bike? The decals do not look familiar from what I can see in the one picture, but it has some finish details in common with my Montagner of about the same period. Mine is a regular road bike, but I know he made pursuit bikes.

The seat stay bridge does look similar to the red and purple Cramerotti, as suggested by Atlas Shrugged above.

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Randy, you might have posted the wrong pictures for the Camerotti.
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