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1973 Super Mondia Special - Road Ready and Completely Refurbished

Old 08-21-23, 04:34 PM
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1973 Super Mondia Special - Road Ready and Completely Refurbished

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I'd like to get an idea of what this bike is worth. You'll notice the red lugged steel frame and the Campagnolo components. It's got a brand new (same model) Brook saddle as the one in the photo didn't last long before the leather failed. It's been completely refurbished. I actually completed 6 triathlons on it last summer.

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Thanks for posting the pics!
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It's hard to tell much from those tiny photos but it appears to be in very nice shape. In my market, San Francisco Bay Area, if you find the right buyer, I think $700. However finding the right buyer is not as easy as it used to be. The market for used vintage, high-quality bikes seems very soft right now. I'm curious what others have to say.
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...I have a Super Mondia Special in pretty nice shape here, in Sacramento. I advertised it on CL for a local sale last year at $700 (maybe $750 ?).

There was one person locally who collects Mondia bikes, who looked at it, but balked at the price. IIRC, he offered me $600, and I decided it was worth more than that to me as a rider. But as stated in the post above, the marketplace here is pretty soft. I'm glad I have it, and have gotten to ride it some more. I guess eventually the right person will come along, because it's really a little big for me. But adjusted for that, with bar and saddle in the right spots for me, it goes nicely along the path.

I probably wouldn't pick it as a tri bike, but I can see where it might do OK because of the longer wheelbase and easy handling.

Edit: no idea what it might be worth in Utah.
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Just want to say thanks for helping Joel. He hit me up about the bike yesterday but I just was not sure about value and such. Plus I had just gotten in a Holdsworth Professional as well as the 90's Merlin Ti I picked up over the weekend so no room to take on another bike. So I suggested he ask about it over here.

The local market here seems to have really gotten soft. I've had my beautiful Peugeot Tourmelet and Raleigh Technium Supercourse listed since spring at a fraction of what I've got into them with no sales yet. Both bikes advertised with a full breakdown of all the part upgrades and their cost. Years past these would have sold in a couple of weeks easily for what I'm asking.

Still, Joel's bike is a real beauty with that red color and the Campagnolo parts and that should help it!.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris
It's hard to tell much from those tiny photos but it appears to be in very nice shape. In my market, San Francisco Bay Area, if you find the right buyer, I think $700. However finding the right buyer is not as easy as it used to be. The market for used vintage, high-quality bikes seems very soft right now. I'm curious what others have to say.
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I'd have a hard time selling my Mondia but $700 would get it moving. It at least would be a good starting point for offers.
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Best I can say is take some better pics with a clean background no snow then you will increase value by $100-200 with almost no work. Snow just seem;'s to be value killer when it comes to bike pics

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Jim thanks for letting me know about this forum!
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Originally Posted by zukahn1
Best I can say is take some better pics with a clean background no snow then you will increase value by $100-200 with almost no work. Snow just seem;'s to be value killer when it comes to bike pics
Great points, thanks. Those were the photos I had when I completed the refurb - will certainly take new ones when selling it.
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Yikes! I may as well keep it if it's that low. Thanks for pointing this one out.
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Originally Posted by joelzieve
Yikes! I may as well keep it if it's that low. Thanks for pointing this one out.
...yeah, it's pretty sad on this stuff right now. There's a combination of everyone wanting to buy an e-bike, combined with a bunch of "you really need brifters and disc brakes on a road bike" rhetoric. And there haven't been that many people looking for classic steel road bikes for five or six years now. That one in Placerville looks like it's a better size for me, and it's not that far away from me here. There was a time I'd have grabbed it and sold the one I have, but that time is passed for me.

I think maybe eventually it will level out in a more sensible direction. Until then, I'm riding mine as much as I can.
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I think you hit it on the head. Ebikes take up room so the oldies are getting pushed out on the market. Took a friend to the Trips for Kids sale Saturday and he picked up a low use 2012 Trek Madone 5.2 for $300. I can't compete with that.

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The vintage bike market is soft by what I have monitored recently.
‘This bike presents pretty well BUT-
I am concerned about the orientation of the later, not period correct rear brake holders.
I very much think they are open to the front. BAD.
One pad holder nut is not OEM. (Hey nit picky but you will be told)
I would go to a better hardware store and get a Chrome nut and washer. Many Ace hardware stores carry. Not perfect but would look the part much better.
backtracking a bit, the shift levers are 1980’s, what you have works, original to these bikes were Campagnolo bar end controls. Don’t work as well.
‘also original were center pull brakes, Weinmann, while the Campagnolo stoppers are an upgrade, not necessarily in the very good condition used bike market.
‘Originality gets equal and the bike would be “correct”

correct that rear caliper, remove the black plastic covering on the tire guides while you are at it if you do not have Weinmann calipers. (Even Mafacs)

other than that mechanical fault, (which really discounts the mechanic’s competence) this is above a user bike, but not a show bike.

$600 unfortunately would be the assessment.
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The vintage bike market is soft by what I have monitored recently.
‘This bike presents pretty well BUT-
I am concerned about the orientation of the later, not period correct rear brake holders.
I very much think they are open to the front. BAD.
One pad holder nut is not OEM. (Hey nit picky but you will be told)
I would go to a better hardware store and get a Chrome nut and washer. Many Ace hardware stores carry. Not perfect but would look the part much better.
backtracking a bit, the shift levers are 1980’s, what you have works, original to these bikes were Campagnolo bar end controls. Don’t work as well.
‘also original were center pull brakes, Weinmann, while the Campagnolo stoppers are an upgrade, not necessarily in the very good condition used bike market.
‘Originality gets equal and the bike would be “correct”

correct that rear caliper, remove the black plastic covering on the tire guides while you are at it if you do not have Weinmann calipers. (Even Mafacs)

other than that mechanical fault, (which really discounts the mechanic’s competence) this is above a user bike, but not a show bike.

$600 unfortunately would be the assessment.
Thanks so much for your thoughts! The brakes have been corrected since this obit was taken and before I rode it (thank goodness someone else pointed that out to me).
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Thanks so much for your thoughts! The brakes have been corrected since this obit was taken and before I rode it (thank goodness someone else pointed that out to me).
very good.
I see a 53/41 front ring set, the rear is pretty wide, by the position of the cage on the big ring and with two cogs in back to go… pretty sure the bike is not big ring/big cog safe. In other words, not safe for dummies.
be sure they know. A number of those combos are essentially duplicates of other combos, but many folk are lazy and don’t look or recall where they are gear combo wise.
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When selling a bike with non-aero levers, it's often helpful to raise the stem to a high level that's still safe to ride, then trim the brake housing to meet it. Then you can lower the stem where you see fit. There's no good reason for the housing to be any longer than that. The mark-up in the pic below shows where the housing should be for the selected stem height.



The rear derailleur housing is perfect.

Also, you're using two headset spacers with a Campy NR headset. Are two really necessary? Unless the lock nut is bottoming out on the steerer, just use one. Or go to your bike shop and get an aluminum one that is perfectly suited for it.
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Originally Posted by joelzieve
Yikes! I may as well keep it if it's that low. Thanks for pointing this one out.
I got a vote for keeping the bike. I don't think you'll like the current state of the vintage bike market. The sale post above probably accurately reflects what's necessary for anything resembling a quick sale.
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Some really good points on this thread. Dressing the bike properly for presentation will help attract the right buyer. I recently sold a bike and was able to get ok money for it but it took two months and , in retrospect , probably should have kept the bike. Like this bike , it was in very nice shape , I had it nicely squared away as far as presentation , so that the type of buyer I wanted to attract would be happy. In a good market I think I could’ve gotten much more . I’m not sure a good market will ever return , but it is better to enjoy the bike than let it go for less than the value of your enjoyment.
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Originally Posted by joelzieve
If vintage '70s European 531/SL bikes are still selling well on eBay, I would think this one would do well. It's gorgeous. If I had one in my size like that, and I were selling it, that would mean I have some pretty ******* fancy bikes. Even if I didn't ride a bike, that's $1,000+ worth of art I can hang on a wall.

Lower the seatpost a bit for sales pics. I avoid taking photos in direct sunlight, but, in this case, the bike seems to love it.
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